YouTube is Removing Videos - Are You Affected?

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Crown said:
This got me thinking. The ramifications for this issue has the potential to affect the whole of Youtube (not just the kids space). - YouTube generates a lot of revenue for google through the adwords/adsense program but the costs are also huge (due to storage space and bandwidth costs) The result is that YouTube is only just about profitable. The margins are very low. If the conclusion of this kids content issue is that Youtube need to manually review uploaded content to check it, then that will increase their costs exponentially - probably enough to tip the balance from profit to loss.

Add to that, the political pressure on all social media (facebook, YouTube and twitter) following on from the Russian interference in the US elections by using social media to influence voters - For anyone not following the story - Basically there is a chance that social media platforms will be legally responsible for the content that appears on their platforms (something that is not currently the case - it's not written into law) - If the law does change and/or public pressure increases forcing YouTube to manually review content, then YouTube would no longer be profitable in its current state. How long would that be sustainable for them? How long would shareholders allow that to happen? These are very fragile times for YouTube.
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These are excellent points that convince me even more that the best way to go is building your own brand in a way that if YT collapsed/banned you, it would only marginally hurt your business.

The Paul brothers or Casey Neistat are a very good example in this regard, they became so big and diversificated their source of income in a way that they would survive a Youtube extinction.
 
FamilyToyReview said:
It’ll be interesting to see what happens to Toys AndMe. They could signal what is to come for the rest of us. They have a mix of normal toy and kid videos and that bad baby freaky stuff too. I think they even did a collaboration with toy freaks. They definitely more than dabbled in quite a few bad baby toy freak style videos. They also have some legit kid and toy videos. But they are huge and i think on the same general popularity and reputationg level as ryan toysreview. So there was probably some discussion at yt if toys andme should be removed. i wonder if one metric yt uses to determine wether you should be removed is the % of offending bad baby freaky videos you have in your catalog before removing your channel. I wod be very scared if toys andme are taken down because they also have legit videos and theyve got a lot of cred. Maybe toys andme are analagous to Louis CK for their small part in elsagate.
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They have dabbled in the dark arts, haven't they. The allure of the dark side is ever present. I saw that video where they met the TF dad and girls at the pool at the Disney resort - not sure if it was by accident or planned though. I certainly do hope the are having discussion very high up in the Ytr organisation - I would hate to think this is the result of some disgruntled contractor under minimum wage in a sweat shop somewhere in the jungles of SE Asia - who was that guy that deleted the @POTUS Twitter account on his last day??[DOUBLEPOST=1511371548,1511371465][/DOUBLEPOST]
Scapestrato said:
These are excellent points that convince me even more that the best way to go is building your own brand in a way that if YT collapsed/banned you, it would only marginally hurt your business.

The Paul brothers or Casey Neistat are a very good example in this regard, they became so big and diversificated their source of income in a way that they would survive a Youtube extinction.
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Unfortunately in the kids domain, only the very largest and few enjoy the diversification opportunities. I don't think sponsors even speak to you under 1M sub and 100M/month.
 
FamilyToyReview said:
It’ll be interesting to see what happens to Toys AndMe. They could signal what is to come for the rest of us. They have a mix of normal toy and kid videos and that bad baby freaky stuff too. I think they even did a collaboration with toy freaks. They definitely more than dabbled in quite a few bad baby toy freak style videos. They also have some legit kid and toy videos. But they are huge and i think on the same general popularity and reputationg level as ryan toysreview. So there was probably some discussion at yt if toys andme should be removed. i wonder if one metric yt uses to determine wether you should be removed is the % of offending bad baby freaky videos you have in your catalog before removing your channel. I wod be very scared if toys andme are taken down because they also have legit videos and theyve got a lot of cred. Maybe toys andme are analagous to Louis CK for their small part in elsagate.
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I’ve had some email exchanges with them over the weekend but they are also in the dark where this is all going and some of their stuff was removed also by youtube. They did have a lot of videos filling entire bathrooms in hotels with orbees or huge exploding balloons, food wasting , shaving her fathers mustache in his sleep and not to mention also the bad baby driving, stealing and pooping everywhere. I checked them yesterday and while they removed the word “bad” from their titles hey still have things like “kid messy toilet” or “kid steals” up. With the amount of videos removed I wouldnt be surprised to see them deleted too unfortunately.[DOUBLEPOST=1511371995,1511371770][/DOUBLEPOST]
KiddieToysReview said:
What's PH?
There was a comment above about Vlad planning to come back. I think most, if not all, these channels will be back under new names very very soon. You gotta remember, the $ earned at the 5M-9M sub levels are phenomenal, there is no way these people won't fight tooth and nail to find a way to get another channel up.
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True, Vlad was making more than a million a month easily. Not hard to open a different company name and start uploading again. Putting 50k into adwords is peanuts also for them to get a jumpstart.
 
KiddieToysReview said:
The workaround is too easy - if the banned channel was in the guy's name, his wife opens an account. Since they are based in Russian, you could also use babushka or dedushka, or any of the daddas and tottyas. The dad's then just an employee of the channel. Too easy....
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Actually there is easier workaround. Register different company and create a new account to that company - done. Even if the owner is the same. And they have the know-how to exploit the most labile audience, so they will grow in no time. BUT..... since YouTube counts on the community a lot, angry parents will flag the videos pretty fast and I wonder if they didn't already had thousands of flags and YouTube just lowered the barrier for banning flagged videos. Not only change of business, but also change of content will be needed.
 
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Izzy's Toy Time said:
Everything's the same over here. You could set a heart rate monitor up to our channel, it's that consistent. 45,000/hour peaks, 20,000/hour slumps at night. For months and months. There's been a slight increase the last few days but I'd more so attribute that to Thanksgiving break and not the purges.
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Same here i had slight increase since last week. I figured because of thanksgiving.
 
Youtube is never the good guy and they do nothing right.


BUT, I can't help but feel glad that they're going after a lot of this disgusting child content. You can see what I mean in h3h3's vid "Toy Channels are ruining society"
 
Scapestrato said:
These are excellent points that convince me even more that the best way to go is building your own brand in a way that if YT collapsed/banned you, it would only marginally hurt your business.
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Having a business solely based around Youtube is very risky. Likewise for facebook and other 3rd party platforms like ebay. Since it's all hosted by a 3rd party and on a third party domain name, the creator doesn't own any of the assets apart from the content. That 3rd party's TOS means they can pull the plug (on the channel or even the whole website) whenever they feel like it and without the need to justify it.
 
Crown said:
Having a business solely based around Youtube is very risky. Likewise for facebook and other 3rd party platforms like ebay. Since it's all hosted by a 3rd party and on a third party domain name, the creator doesn't own any of the assets apart from the content. That 3rd party's TOS means they can pull the plug (on the channel or even the whole website) whenever they feel like it and without the need to justify it.
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I agree 100%.

In fact, I never understood people white-knighting Youtube ToS when it`s clearly written in an abstract and convoluted way to let them rule supreme.
I.e., they could literally ban a channel for uploading a couple of compilation videos saying that being reuploaded stuff it can be categorized as spam (not that I condone channels that just reupload the same content over and over, but it`s an example to give the general idea).

Anyway I`m not sure for how long they can go on like that with more and more people making a living though YT, sooner or later something along the lines of a creators union will appear on the horizon. And as you mentioned before, it will be interesting to see how they will be able to cope with that considering the already shaky business model foundations.

Well, interesting and worrisome at the same time for us creators :D
 
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