YouTube is Removing Videos - Are You Affected?

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6StringMadMan said:
Hindsight is 20/20. I disagree with you about playing safe, it's the people who take risks who more times than not will be the successful ones. The mentality that made your channel successful and then caused it to fail will cause you to reach success again, I'm sure of it.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence :)
As they say in Seinfeld, the wheels are turning...
 
WildCanadaKids said:
With rough estimates from SocialBlade's bottom 500 worst performing channels (we're 81, we were 70 early this morning), the top 100 of that list represent 52 BILLION views removed from YouTube.

Let that sink in for a moment.

That doesn't include Webs and Tiaras or Toys and Funny Kids Surprise Eggs. In total are we looking at 100 billion or more views lost?

I know that not all those views were from inappropriate or harmful content. This is an extreme over-reaction to what is really a minority of bad actors. I think all responsible channels wanted YouTube to clean up the space but this is a bit insane. I do wonder what the consequences for YouTube will be in general. As well, when will this style of purge hit other verticals?

As well, I wonder how many of those videos are being pulled by creators as a reaction to what YouTube is doing, and how many of those views are actually YouTube pulling videos. How much does this parallel a stock market situation where traders dump a perceived bad stock, sending the whole market crashing? I do wonder if this situation of spooked/scared creators and spooked advertisers will get out of hand and cause YouTube real problems. Their lack of clear guidelines/transparency and being reactive rather than proactive may come back to bite them. This whole situation seems really mismanaged. If I was an investor, I would not be happy.
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They could have done it quietly, but with the multiple articles/blog posts about this and the .... how should I put it ... concerned netizens ... from reddit flagging channels and videos left, right and centre, Yt was probably under extreme corporate pressure from Alphabet to cut content. There was likely not enough time to go channel by channel and video by video - just slash anything remotely not 2 y.o. kids safe. Of course this caused even more news, and now advertisers are pulling out again.

If I was an investor, and I'm not, I would certainly demand the head of the VP for Kids, probably even the CEO. Add 3 more execs, probably corporate oversight, advertising and 1 more, and we could make a Daddy Finger video with their heads bopping around on a glove.[DOUBLEPOST=1511559425,1511559002][/DOUBLEPOST]
WildCanadaKids said:
Anyone heard anything about monetization? Channels like Little Club lost nearly 1 billion views and yet they still have ads running on their channel. I am having a hard time understanding how demonetization is being applied.
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From watching that AIR interview with the Russian Yt reps, my understanding is it's based on the perceived "badness" of the transgressions. If channels transgressed very badly or were leading the trends, the channels were terminated (TF, Vlad) They had both unacceptable content inside the video and a very large number of videos transgressing.

If we transgressed not too badly without clear intent, we are demonetized. So the stuff in the video was not kid safe, but not extremely not kids safe. And we were not doing it with malicious intent, as it seems everyone is saying TF did.

If channels transgressed only a little bit (not the # of videos nor the % of channel content, but the content of the videos themselves) then the videos were removed either by Yt or the channel themselves but they are still monetizable. Best example of this I can think of is "bad baby crying for lollipops". Not too good, but not that serious, not as serious as kids getting crushed or crushing food.

That's my understanding of it. Welcome any elaboration from anyone who has learned more during the day from AIR or otherwise....
 
Interesting. So is the understanding that monetization is definitely not coming back for channels that have been demonetized?

This is all so arbitrary. Define "badness". There are channels that remain monetized that I think are worse than channels that were deleted.
 
WildCanadaKids said:
Interesting. So is the understanding that monetization is definitely not coming back for channels that have been demonetized?

This is all so arbitrary. Define "badness". There are channels that remain monetized that I think are worse than channels that were deleted.
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I summarised that video a few posts before, monetization was a hot topic of course, it seems that for the moment we are demonetized, but we may be able to appeal in the future. Have a read of that post up top, I translated as i was watching, it's quite nuanced, Yt didn't say it will be remonetized but from the tone, style of speaking, the words said, my impression is we can appeal in the future, once and when sufficient punishment is finished, once our channels are clean, and once we show commitment to kids safe videos. Once again this is my interpretation and translation of that video, not guarantee 100% accurate.

They did give several example of what is bad and really bad, it's in my post above.
 
I read the posts and I totally appreciate your interpretation since I don't speak Russian! :) But I still think that it's arbitrary and way over-board, since my channel might be being punished for featuring candy...in cartoons. As an animator, I cannot fathom spending the time to make new content (4 days for 2 minutes, notwithstanding any time spent developing new characters), in the hopes of one day, maybe, being monetized. Especially since I have no indication of what I actually did wrong so instead of having a strategy I'd be guessing; all the while providing YouTube with high quality content for free.

One person on this thread said something to the effect of "shame on you for wanting to be paid for your work". Like so many people, YT isn't my hobby, it's my job. If I don't get paid, I don't eat.
 
KiddieToysReview said:
They could have done it quietly, but with the multiple articles/blog posts about this and the .... how should I put it ... concerned netizens ... from reddit flagging channels and videos left, right and centre, Yt was probably under extreme corporate pressure from Alphabet to cut content. There was likely not enough time to go channel by channel and video by video - just slash anything remotely not 2 y.o. kids safe. Of course this caused even more news, and now advertisers are pulling out again.

If I was an investor, and I'm not, I would certainly demand the head of the VP for Kids, probably even the CEO. Add 3 more execs, probably corporate oversight, advertising and 1 more, and we could make a Daddy Finger video with their heads bopping around on a glove.[DOUBLEPOST=1511559425,1511559002][/DOUBLEPOST]

From watching that AIR interview with the Russian Yt reps, my understanding is it's based on the perceived "badness" of the transgressions. If channels transgressed very badly or were leading the trends, the channels were terminated (TF, Vlad) They had both unacceptable content inside the video and a very large number of videos transgressing.

If we transgressed not too badly without clear intent, we are demonetized. So the stuff in the video was not kid safe, but not extremely not kids safe. And we were not doing it with malicious intent, as it seems everyone is saying TF did.

If channels transgressed only a little bit (not the # of videos nor the % of channel content, but the content of the videos themselves) then the videos were removed either by Yt or the channel themselves but they are still monetizable. Best example of this I can think of is "bad baby crying for lollipops". Not too good, but not that serious, not as serious as kids getting crushed or crushing food.

That's my understanding of it. Welcome any elaboration from anyone who has learned more during the day from AIR or otherwise....
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I think there's some chaos involved. I don't know how YT is set up. But I've worked with database programmers during really busy holidays and sometimes when they run scripts there are some unintended consequences. These wholesale changes seem rushed so there is probably are some inconsistencies we are experiencing. Probably the result of doing a bunch of queries on a mass scale to weed out problem videos. Probably a lot of manual fixes. Undoing some mistakes. Re-running some scripts again, which could explain why videos are being monetized and demonitized and then monetized again. Probably some element of human error. A bunch of over worked weary eyes scrolling through eyeballs of data making snap decisions like "uhmm this looks good enough. 'click'" or a little bit of "whoops".

Also some large channels completely unrelated to elsagate were temporarily terminated yesterday including Conan and some big youtuber idubbbz.
 
WildCanadaKids said:
I read the posts and I totally appreciate your interpretation since I don't speak Russian! :) But I still think that it's arbitrary and way over-board, since my channel might be being punished for featuring candy...in cartoons. As an animator, I cannot fathom spending the time to make new content (4 days for 2 minutes, notwithstanding any time spent developing new characters), in the hopes of one day, maybe, being monetized. Especially since I have no indication of what I actually did wrong so instead of having a strategy I'd be guessing; all the while providing YouTube with high quality content for free.

One person on this thread said something to the effect of "shame on you for wanting to be paid for your work". Like so many people, YT isn't my hobby, it's my job. If I don't get paid, I don't eat.
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I blocked that person, a strategy I learnt running my channel :)
I feel you pain, and although our videos don't take nearly as long, it's still a solid 4-8 hours start to finish all up per video.
I wish there was more clarity. It's all FUBAR[DOUBLEPOST=1511561682,1511561511][/DOUBLEPOST]I had an idea, if anyone has some spare time, check the Yt channels, Twitter feeds, blogs of major MCNs such as Studio71, Fullscreen, etc, see if there are any interviews like that Russian one or any status updates, I know some of them have ids channels that were hit. I would do it, but gotta run, kids karate lesson time...
 
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