Hot Topic New monetization changes: 4k hours & 1k subs (**discussion here only**)

[Realm Unknown]

yeah but is it possible that smaller youtubers don't know?

A second thought was that if YT is now hand picking, maybe the top preferred users don't have to do 10min + anymore etc etc.

No one is immune really to the algorithm, not fully that is, Watch Time still dominates what videos really get boosted. I would agree not all small channels know, but those actually dedicated to the site most likely do, since for the most part it effects them the most.

 

[Stoobs]

For the pennies you'd make before hitting those numbers it's not a issue. I had 2.7k views and made like 4quid lol

 

[AceOfBats]

Bad news for small creators or people wanting to start a new channel. Good news for those already established.

It will weed out the people thinking they are going to make a quick buck by flooding the site with bad content. I expect the amount of people begging for subscribers and those paying to gain subscribers to go up exponentially though. It took me 2 years to hit 1000 subscribers. It also took me in my second year to roughly break 4,000 watch hours in a year. Now I am hitting that watch requirement in a quarter of a year. in 2017 I hit 25,000 watch hours. I am safe. But if the shore it up even further, killing my monetization they would push me away. I rely on the revenue stream to purchase my editing software monthly, and save up for new equipment. It still is a hobby that costs more than in brings in, but I can see the tipping point on the horizon. Just a year or so away if everything keeps working out.

You know Dutch that's actually where I'm at too. I lease the Premiere Software from Adobe at like fifty bucks a month or something. And obviously we buy the product out of pocket. I'm hoping all the SEO and changes I've been making bring in the subscribers though. We get a lot of views and watch time for being a channel under 200 subscribers especially, it's just getting the subs really. Yugi-Tubing is competitive and expensive. I'm not looking to quit my job, just kinda subsidize the cost of running a channel like this. Maybe it's time for an R&F. I dunno, we'll see. Dutch I figure you'd do good with 5000+ subs.

 

[Lew]

To be fair, it's not a massive earner even at those numbers so it's not such a big deal in my opinion. The only downside I can think of is that it might encourage others to attempt to get to those numbers quicker by banding together and sharing subs with no intention of actually watching that content.

 

[AceOfBats]

To be fair, it's not a massive earner even at those numbers so it's not such a big deal in my opinion. The only downside I can think of is that it might encourage others to attempt to get to those numbers quicker by banding together and sharing subs with no intention of actually watching that content.

True. Big thing is you can tell the difference between those channels though. I've seen channels with 10 times my subs that only get half the views that I'll get on a daily video. Like struggling at 34 views for the week while mine can hit 100 - 200 easy. It's disappointing that the sub numbers are there and not with me, that's the only part I don't like. But growing organically has netted longer watch times and more views. So I guess i prefer having a loyal (small but real) subscriber base when compared to a large but ultimately fickle and manufactured one.

 

[Lew]

True. Big thing is you can tell the difference between those channels though. I've seen channels with 10 times my subs that only get half the views that I'll get on a daily video. Like struggling at 34 views for the week while mine can hit 100 - 200 easy. It's disappointing that the sub numbers are there and not with me, that's the only part I don't like. But growing organically has netted longer watch times and more views. So I guess i prefer having a loyal (small but real) subscriber base when compared to a large but ultimately fickle and manufactured one.

Absolutely! What's the point in having all the numbers on subs if there's nobody actually watching your stuff? What I don't like about the changes are that it might encourage this, is all.

 

[AceOfBats]

Absolutely! What's the point in having all the numbers on subs if there's nobody actually watching your stuff? What I don't like about the changes are that it might encourage this, is all.

Hopefully people will wise up. The "sub4sub" crowd is always going to be there. So is the crowd that just uploads copyrighted material. One channel I ran across recently literally uploaded an audible copy of Jurassic park and has coped 1000+subs in less than a week. Many of which listened to the whole book (15 Hours). The slight adjustments apparently miss the algorithm and it was riddled with ads. This type of stuff is what YouTube really needs to worry about frankly. And they aren't. They wouldn't need to make so many changes so frequently if there wasn't this sort of crap out there.

 

[Andie_the_Lab]

Hopefully people will wise up. The "sub4sub" crowd is always going to be there. So is the crowd that just uploads copyrighted material. One channel I ran across recently literally uploaded an audible copy of Jurassic park and has coped 1000+subs in less than a week. Many of which listened to the whole book (15 Hours). The slight adjustments apparently miss the algorithm and it was riddled with ads. This type of stuff is what YouTube really needs to worry about frankly. And they aren't. They wouldn't need to make so many changes so frequently if there wasn't this sort of crap out there.

I agree i'm so sick and tired of these compilation channels that change the voice frequency and play video within a picture to get away with it..... total view counts for these Naruto Compilations are like 50M....

 

[TheDutchTexan]

You know Dutch that's actually where I'm at too. I lease the Premiere Software from Adobe at like fifty bucks a month or something. And obviously we buy the product out of pocket. I'm hoping all the SEO and changes I've been making bring in the subscribers though. We get a lot of views and watch time for being a channel under 200 subscribers especially, it's just getting the subs really. Yugi-Tubing is competitive and expensive. I'm not looking to quit my job, just kinda subsidize the cost of running a channel like this. Maybe it's time for an R&F. I dunno, we'll see. Dutch I figure you'd do good with 5000+ subs.

I am not doing nearly as good as I would like since I am still out of pocket. It's close to self sustaining though, oh so close. When that happens it would make things a lot easier and perhaps even start to open new avenues. I've been wanting to do a project car for a while now!

 

[Andie_the_Lab]

I am not doing nearly as good as I would like since I am still out of pocket. It's close to self sustaining though, oh so close. When that happens it would make things a lot easier and perhaps even start to open new avenues. I've been wanting to do a project car for a while now!

do you use a press fleet for access to vehicles or a mix? We work with driveshop, but it doesnt seem like a stable avenue