Michelle Phan getting sued

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One Curvy Blogger said:
I don't think the music made her the big bucks, but she should definitely be penalized. Come on, even I know not to use copyrighted music (especially when I'm making money!!).[DOUBLEPOST=1405995409,1405995385][/DOUBLEPOST]Question: how do even get permission to use copyrighted music?
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It's actually quite hard to get permission from a label if it involves one of their major artists, but it is quite easy to pay for a license if you need it. Licenses for major artists for use on youtube usually run $5k per song per use, so if you used a song in 10 videos, it would be $50k. Obviously if you use several songs per video, it can get expensive in a hurry.
 
I am still unsure what to think of this hole story since on the one side we have a Record Label that tried to find an agreement more then once with her and on the other hand we have a YouTuber that has on their Channel not only used Tracks from Ultra Records but also from many other too.

The question will be if now with the hole publicity she got won`t backfire on her in the longer run since if Ultra Record will get their agreement which I am more then sure they will since if she had a license that would allow her to use those tracks in the past all she had to do was just throw it at the Legal Team from Ultra Records.

Instead all we got so far from her legal advisor was an comment about from an Artist that has probably a contract that makes very clearly who is handling the marketing rights and who is collecting royalties and working out everything else.

Prediction:

Ultra Records won`t be the last Music Label that will knock at her door this year since those Lawsuits with Music Labels are like domino stones where when one comes crushing down on you the next one is already getting ready to do exactly the same and so...
 
Wreckless Eating said:
It's actually quite hard to get permission from a label if it involves one of their major artists, but it is quite easy to pay for a license if you need it. Licenses for major artists for use on youtube usually run $5k per song per use, so if you used a song in 10 videos, it would be $50k. Obviously if you use several songs per video, it can get expensive in a hurry.
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Damn! Music really isn't THAT worth it'll. I think I'll just stick to my un-copyrighted music. ^_^
 
I haven't read all the posts in detail so apologies if this has already been mentioned.

This has now made the BBC news and they have picked up an interesting slant:


But one of the artists whose work she is alleged to have used has said he supports Ms Phan. "Copyright law is a dinosaur, ill-suited for the landscape of today's media.” Kaskade DJ on the Ultra label Kaskade, whose work features most prominently in the record label's complaint, said: "Copyright law is a dinosaur, ill-suited for the landscape of today's media."

He expressed his disbelief on Twitter that his own record label was suing Ms Phan for copyright infringement. "And the kicker... they're citing her using my songs for the suit. Come. On," he wrote on the site.
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Her tweet is pretty ridiculous IMHO. She's doing people a favour because she's inspiring them to dance WTF?


Full article:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28418449
 
Wreckless Eating said:
It's actually quite hard to get permission from a label if it involves one of their major artists, but it is quite easy to pay for a license if you need it. Licenses for major artists for use on youtube usually run $5k per song per use, so if you used a song in 10 videos, it would be $50k. Obviously if you use several songs per video, it can get expensive in a hurry.
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Still if TMZ were right with the 150M figure, we could call that 300-400 thousand dollars, I'd say she can easily afford to just buy the sufficient licenses.
That's not even factoring in any brand deals that were apart of those videos.
 
Shane.C said:
Still if TMZ were right with the 150M figure, we could call that 300-400 thousand dollars, I'd say she can easily afford to just buy the sufficient licenses.
That's not even factoring in any brand deals that were apart of those videos.
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She could, but because of the lawsuit, they may not grant her a retroactive license if she decided to pay for the music right now. Given the number of videos she has and the possibility of using more than one track per video, she could easily be on the hook for millions in licensing fees.


markkaz said:
I wonder if this is the small record label's swipe back at Google/YouTube for their unfriendly record label deals.

http://www.tubefilter.com/2014/05/22/youtube-music-service-strong-arm-indie-labels/
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Very unlikely given that Ultra is one of the EDM powerhouses right now. They're considered major label.
 
Wreckless Eating said:
She could, but because of the lawsuit, they may not grant her a retroactive license if she decided to pay for the music right now. Given the number of videos she has and the possibility of using more than one track per video, she could easily be on the hook for millions in licensing fees.
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Wouldn't like to be her right now so.
I give her no sympathy if she really was given warnings (not that it was ever alright anyway).

Her large viewing numbers could also work strongly against her in this case.
 
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