Massive drop in views on kid channels

ianmacdon said:
I think I have it figured out. All videos from everyone will still be on the YouTube. com platform as per usual but if you want your kids to watch videos on YouTube then you choose youtubekids.com and set up a filter which somehow will magically only show certain videos. All my videos were recently removed from the kids app although to me they were created for kids under 10...or 8 or 4 down to toddler. They are are all clean fun and kid friendly....really about pixar cars all cookie monster....but anyway....I wonder if I will even notice the difference in my views when this new website is activated. My guess is no. I expect we will see it launch tomorrow or over the weekend. Most of the staff are probably at burning man until next week so there could be a delay .. any thoughts? ?
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Here is what we know. A huge part of the FTC complaint was that "YouTube cannot take advantage of the age gate exception because, although it requires registration to post videos, it does not require registration to watch videos on YouTube." It was documented that some Google executives recommended moving all kids content to the kids app; however many pointed out how unsuccessful the kids app has been. 81% of American kids watch Youtube so they can't afford to toss their platform down a hole with such a move. The FTC specifically responded to advocacy groups who filed the complaint by asking them if Youtube disabled ads on kids content would this fix the problem. The advocacy groups responded with no.

As someone that has extensive experience in interpreting regulatory statutes, I don't think Google can leave content clearly aimed at kids on the regular site and be COPPA complaint. Youtube has officially responded with the following quote, "Because YouTube is not for children, we’ve invested significantly in the creation of the YouTube Kids app to offer an alternative specifically designed for children.” With recent news of the web based kids version (I think this is brilliant), Youtube may finally have a solution to comply with the law. In order for this to work, Youtube can longer subscribe to the "don't ask don't tell" method of operation of pretending to claim that they don't allow kids under 13 to use main Youtube, yet they have nothing in place to prevent it. Obviously some things will slip through the cracks, but I think you are going to see a major change. Here is the deal. Youtube doesn't need 15,000 kid content creators. There are only so many views to go around and kids are going to watch what is available. The only channels that have any real value, are channels that have an actual brand where it is worth money outside of Youtube. All of this stuff from Russia and Asian countries do not have any real value outside Youtube. Youtube obviously can't manually go through every channel and pick a curated list. It violates a core principle of Youtube being an open platform. What will likely happen instead, is a natural process of elimination. Once kids content is restricted to the kids side, ad revenue will plummet. Many channels will disappear and will try to capitalize on the next get rich quick scheme. The channels left will be making content primarily motivated by a passion to make these videos and a desire to build a legitimate brand that is worth money outside the Youtube platform. Obviously, I can't guarantee it will play out like this, but it is the path that makes the most sense to me. We also have to realize that this is the same company that allowed videos of pregnant Elsa and Spiderman to proliferate for over two years before they did anything so really anything is possible with this company.
 
Redterrors said:
Here is what we know. A huge part of the FTC complaint was that "YouTube cannot take advantage of the age gate exception because, although it requires registration to post videos, it does not require registration to watch videos on YouTube." It was documented that some Google executives recommended moving all kids content to the kids app; however many pointed out how unsuccessful the kids app has been. 81% of American kids watch Youtube so they can't afford to toss their platform down a hole with such a move. The FTC specifically responded to advocacy groups who filed the complaint by asking them if Youtube disabled ads on kids content would this fix the problem. The advocacy groups responded with no.

As someone that has extensive experience in interpreting regulatory statutes, I don't think Google can leave content clearly aimed at kids on the regular site and be COPPA complaint. Youtube has officially responded with the following quote, "Because YouTube is not for children, we’ve invested significantly in the creation of the YouTube Kids app to offer an alternative specifically designed for children.” With recent news of the web based kids version (I think this is brilliant), Youtube may finally have a solution to comply with the law. In order for this to work, Youtube can longer subscribe to the "don't ask don't tell" method of operation of pretending to claim that they don't allow kids under 13 to use main Youtube, yet they have nothing in place to prevent it. Obviously some things will slip through the cracks, but I think you are going to see a major change. Here is the deal. Youtube doesn't need 15,000 kid content creators. There are only so many views to go around and kids are going to watch what is available. The only channels that have any real value, are channels that have an actual brand where it is worth money outside of Youtube. All of this stuff from Russia and Asian countries do not have any real value outside Youtube. Youtube obviously can't manually go through every channel and pick a curated list. It violates a core principle of Youtube being an open platform. What will likely happen instead, is a natural process of elimination. Once kids content is restricted to the kids side, ad revenue will plummet. Many channels will disappear and will try to capitalize on the next get rich quick scheme. The channels left will be making content primarily motivated by a passion to make these videos and a desire to build a legitimate brand that is worth money outside the Youtube platform. Obviously, I can't guarantee it will play out like this, but it is the path that makes the most sense to me. We also have to realize that this is the same company that allowed videos of pregnant Elsa and Spiderman to proliferate for over two years before they did anything so really anything is possible with this company.
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" What will likely happen instead, is a natural process of elimination. Once kids content is restricted to the kids side, ad revenue will plummet. " ......well they already accomplished that for my channel , from $500.00 a day down to $5.00 a day... a full 99% drop in revenue. BUT , I am still making good evergreen clean fun family friendly videos like we always did. Maybe it will come around eventually :) I , for one , and looking for ward to the change. Really, can it get any worse ....lol..,I wish I had a dollar for every time I said that .
 
dv2000 said:
You really have problem with russia and Asia, don’t you? Do you know how much garbage content I saw coming from the us and the uk?
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Very much so. I am sure some of the content creators from these countries are good people. In fact, the majority of them are probably really good people and I wish them the best. The problem is that the money and the company that runs the platform is from the United States. Advertisers want to run ads to viewers in the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. In fact, when you do a sponsored deal, the company will exclude all views not coming from these countries. What happens is foreign content creators have millions of views from international viewers and Google allows this to count positively for the algorithm thus suggesting their content to American children. American children can only click what they are shown. Then the money earned in direct violation of US law is being sent overseas. Despite some of the nonsense I hear, American children don't watch these videos to learn a foreign language. They watch it because that is what the Google Algorithm shows them.
 
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Interesting to see they put example of channels up for each age group. With Ryantoysreview first one.

I checked the videos. It is the exact same videos from the mobile kids app.
 
Redterrors said:
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Interesting to see they put example of channels up for each age group. With Ryantoysreview first one.

I checked the videos. It is the exact same videos from the mobile kids app.
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yeah, and I searched in every way possible using my titles, tags, anything which makes my videos searchable, and guess what...not a single one of mine there in any age group...whew....I guess mine are still going to be monetized in the regular youtube channel.. just they won't be suggested anymore...this is day one, lets see how it goes after a few weeks. I really think it will have zero effect on my channel ...good luck to all.
 
ianmacdon said:
yeah, and I searched in every way possible using my titles, tags, anything which makes my videos searchable, and guess what...not a single one of mine there in any age group...whew....I guess mine are still going to be monetized in the regular youtube channel.. just they won't be suggested anymore...this is day one, lets see how it goes after a few weeks. I really think it will have zero effect on my channel ...good luck to all.
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it's crazy. The main question are they keeping videos on the main site?
 
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