5+ Million views but terrible payout, WTF going on?

[Faizaan Mahmood]

YouTube take their cuts from the network so it would work in the favour of 70/30 then from the 30% the higher up's in the network have discussed with YouTube what they take however google adsense google take what ever they want there in charge.

 

[SmartTheDumb]

YouTube take their cuts from the network so it would work in the favour of 70/30 then from the 30% the higher up's in the network have discussed with YouTube what they take however google adsense google take what ever they want there in charge.

No.

 

[CousinEd]

YouTube take their cuts from the network so it would work in the favour of 70/30 then from the 30% the higher up's in the network have discussed with YouTube what they take however google adsense google take what ever they want there in charge.

"Joining an MCN has no impact on your revenue share with YouTube, which is outlined in your Terms of Service. MCNs typically take a percentage of revenue from the creator’s portion before paying them." Quoted directly from Google support page - support. google. com/youtube/answer/2737059?hl=en

 

[UKHypnotist]

Networks can offer a different contract depending on what how big you are!

YouTube takes it cut from the 30% we take not the 70% he takes..

Get your facts straight.

You need to get your own facts straight.

First of all, YouTube sends money to the network's Adsense account; so you've not dumped Adsense, they are still involved.

Secondly, that money is only sent to the network's Adsense after YouTube has taken its 45% cut of the money. I have no idea where you are getting 70% from: YouTube's standard revshare rate has been 45% to YouTube and 55% to the creator since 2013.

Ah Ha! Yes I do know where you are getting that 70%! Most networks do a 70-30 split with their members! So here is what the pie looks like in reality.

100% - 45%. 55% goes to creator's Adsense if directly partnered. If network-partnered, 55% goes to the network's Adsense account.

55% - 10-30% depending on your network revshare ratio goes to the creator if network partnered. This is precisely why networks with higher payout thresholds get so many complaints. If you only have say...200-5000 subscribers, it will take months for a channel of that size to reach even a $50.00 payment threshold. If you are smaller than that (<200), the creator may leave networked partnership in despair of ever being paid at all. And that is why so many networks have dropped their payment thresholds to $5.00 or less.

I don't understand why so many new creators want to jump right on the network bandwagon and get paid a measly $5.00 as fast as possible. That level of cash wouldn't even pay for some of the assets I use in my videos!

With Adsense, at least one can set a decent threshold. I am small at only 5348 subs (as of this morning); and I've set my own threshold at a level I can report to the tax man, when I reach it.

Before you tell someone who's been on YouTube since a year after its founding to "get their facts straight", I'd advise you to make sure you have your own facts straight first!

 

[Yachts For Sale]

Secondly, that money is only sent to the network's Adsense after YouTube has taken its 45% cut of the money.

100% - 45%. 45% goes to creator's Adsense if directly partnered.

You obviously know what you are talking about, but is the above a typo?
If 45% is taken by YouTube then surely 55%, and not 45%, goes to the creator's adsense account?

BTW: Thanks for the detailed explanation. I've never looked into this in any detail because I never expected to make any money out of my channel. Now that I'm making a few hundred bucks I regret becoming part of a network...sounds like a similar learning curve to the one you've gone through.

 

[UKHypnotist]

You obviously know what you are talking about, but is the above a typo?
If 45% is taken by YouTube then surely 55%, and not 45%, goes to the creator's adsense account?

BTW: Thanks for the detailed explanation. I've never looked into this in any detail because I never expected to make any money out of my channel. Now that I'm making a few hundred bucks I regret becoming part of a network...sounds like a similar learning curve to the one you've gone through.

If you look at my post again, you'll see I saw that and corrected it...lol.

Get a copy of your contract, my friend; the network is obligated to keep you supplied with a copy. Once you have that you can read the terms of same and figure out how to get out of the network.

 

[Yachts For Sale]

Gotcha.

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Get a copy of your contract, my friend; the network is obligated to keep you supplied with a copy. Once you have that you can read the terms of same and figure out how to get out of the network.

Yep - did that a couple of weeks ago and feel a fool for ever joining...especially since I pride myself on how well I analyse contracts for my business!!!
They have me tied in pretty well; the contract auto-renews for 12 month periods and can only be terminated with a 30 day notice prior to the end of an auto-renewal cycle. In my case...I have to wait until April next year.
I'm irritated by this, but it's my own fault for not taking it seriously enough when I joined. I could probably fight them on it, but to be frank I have bigger fish to fry so I'll wait until next Spring. In the meantime I will probably email them to ask exactly what it is they are doing to help my channel since I really haven't seen any benefits at all. Maybe they'll offer me a better split to try to persuade me to stay.

 

[UKHypnotist]

Gotcha.

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Yep - did that a couple of weeks ago and feel a fool for ever joining...especially since I pride myself on how well I analyse contracts for my business!!!
They have me tied in pretty well; the contract auto-renews for 12 month periods and can only be terminated with a 30 day notice prior to the end of an auto-renewal cycle. In my case...I have to wait until April next year.
I'm irritated by this, but it's my own fault for not taking it seriously enough when I joined. I could probably fight them on it, but to be frank I have bigger fish to fry so I'll wait until next Spring. In the meantime I will probably email them to ask exactly what it is they are doing to help my channel since I really haven't seen any benefits at all. Maybe they'll offer me a better split to try to persuade me to stay.

The auto-renewal is standard for most networks who have lock-in contracts. Are you with Maker Studios by any chance? If so you are one of the unlucky ones who were retained when 85% of the members were booted out. They seem to be letting my dashboard remain active in the vain hope that I might return one day...haven't checked that this month, however.

 

[Yachts For Sale]

Are you with Maker Studios by any chance?

I'm with BBTV. When I discovered SocialBlade I was taken in by the blurb and joined immediately. I had a few hundred subs at the time and wasn't so focussed on my channel. So far the only real benefit has been the selection of copyright free music through "Epidemic Music" that seems to be affiliated with them in some way. Their dashboard is OK...but not worth paying for!

 

[UKHypnotist]

I'm with BBTV. When I discovered SocialBlade I was taken in by the blurb and joined immediately. I had a few hundred subs at the time and wasn't so focussed on my channel. So far the only real benefit has been the selection of copyright free music through "Epidemic Music" that seems to be affiliated with them in some way. Their dashboard is OK...but not worth paying for!

You realize that when you leave the network, your right to use the Epidemic Sound clips will expire with your membership; yes? Start looking for replacement audio now if you've used any of the ES clips; you don't want to have to start disputing Content IDs left and right.

I started making my own music due to getting tired of paying to license Royalty Free sound clips, and ended up with another income stream when Shockwave Sound decided to pick up some of my catalog.