Hot Topic New monetization changes: 4k hours & 1k subs (**discussion here only**)

This is a bit frustrating as someone like myself with a little over 700 subs and almost 40,000 views. Although, I do not make much money at all (like $1-2 per month) it does suck to lose your YouTube Partnership. I have been partnered since 2011 (when I first started making vids - I took a 5 year gap) and have had money accumulating in my adsense account. Now I will be stuck with $50 just sitting there for who know how long until i can meet the new requirements -_- I think it is a smart move though, because like you all have mentioned, small clickbaity channels in it for a buck will be weeded out quickly. Gives real creators with a passion an opportunity to shine.
 
It doesn't really change anything for me financially but I'm afraid of the implications when it comes to how youtube might promote content. There's no incentive for youtube to promote videos that don't have adds attached. If there becomes some dead-zone in the amount of views you need to be visible, then Its likely going to become extremely common for the only new channels being ones that are fed money through adSense or third party shenanigans.

I think Google will likely tell us this won't be the case, but I'm adopting a wait and see attitude because I don't think the Youtube staff has a high degree of credibility any more when dealing with its creators.
 
Honestly, I know 1k subs and 4k hours seem a lot when you're starting, but it's nothing in the grander scheme of things.

I don't often agree with Keemstar, but I completely agree with his latest tweet about this:




"If you can’t get 1000 subs & 4000 hours of watch time in a year then do you really believe you should make money from YouTube? I see so many people upset but let’s be real, if youtube is your JOB & you expect to be paid but can’t get 1000 subs YOU SUCK AT YOUR JOB!"
 
My channel is new and therefore obviously so far away from this that it doesn't even matter. However, I feel so sorry for the YouTubers that make short videos such as animators... Does YT even care about them?

Honestly I don't know what the solution should have been, but I am just gutted that they have based it off watch time... Especially for the talented animators and such.
 
Michael said:
What I am curious about is how people will get there when YouTube doesn't promote content anywhere near as much as when it is monetised.
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Do you have a link to Youtube's source that says this?
I monetise some videos and don't others, and they get promoted the same as far as we can see.
 
xingcat said:
I think the timing of the announcement and the reasoning they're giving is very suspect and very tone-deaf, but I work in an advertising company, and the idea that every video/channel, regardless of views, should have advertisements on it and that's valuable to advertisers somehow has been misguided for a long time. I think that YouTube made a mistake, not recently (though the messaging is a mistake), but in 2012 when they opened the floodgates to every single channel getting ad share..
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^^^ this.
Thats what I think. It simply a matter of supply and demand. Demand for adverts is outstripping supply and YT do not have the inventory available. The pool of advertisers is not a bottomless pit,
 
Crown said:
Honestly, I know 1k subs and 4k hours seem a lot when you're starting, but it's nothing in the grander scheme of things.

I don't often agree with Keemstar, but I completely agree with his about this:




"If you can’t get 1000 subs & 4000 hours of watch time in a year then do you really believe you should make money from YouTube? I see so many people upset but let’s be real, if youtube is your JOB & you expect to be paid but can’t get 1000 subs YOU SUCK AT YOUR JOB!"
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that is fair but I agree with the math more, 60 mins are 1-hour, there is a total of 52 weeks in a year.

Meaning, it will take 66.67 live streams with a limit of 60 minutes in the video to get 4k hours. Not only do you have to keep videos longer but also enough to make it throughout the whole year. Gaming channels will live stream more than ever, reviewers will post longer videos, etc. This leads to more people to post longe videos and work 24/7 on youtube to get youtube money.

In a nutshell, people who make animation will not be able to get money from youtube. I saw many animation YouTubers who get half a million views on youtube for 5 min video which is not going to cover 4k requirements. This also includes music video YouTubers who worked hard to make both a video and music for only 5 mins.

Thanks to this, many animation YouTubers will have to rely on patron or another source of money besides youtube.
 
I completely understand the logic behind it but it is still very frustrating. I have well over 6K hours of view time in the last year but am on the other end of the spectrum for subs with only 390. While the 50-70 dollars a month I was making isn't that big of an issue, it was very motivating when I had a $3-4 day! seeing the pennies come in made things fun. Now I will be grinding through hoping to somehow pull 600 more subs.
I do think there should be an either/or stipulation on the subs/hours instead of both. Guess I will have to re-evaluate my strategy on subs.
I am mostly concerned that when I do get to 1000 subs, I still have to reapply for YPP and even then there is no guarantee to be accepted.
I also read it as a minimum 30 day monetization suspension if I don't reach it by 2/20/18. So if I am at 999 on the 20th and 1001 on the 21st, I will have to wait a full 30 days just for the chance to be monetized again? If I am even approved to rejoin YPP.
 
genp said:
BTW I started monetizing my first channel when the subscriber number hit 100K. Plan long-term. You will reap much more fruits.
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I like that...plan long term. Been at this 3 years as a hobby and going to continue working toward improving my content and let the chips falls where they may. Since I was planning on more short animations this year, I know the 4000 hours watch time will be a much more difficult milestone however.
 
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