Michelle Phan getting sued

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LJay said:
I had to do some digging on this matter but Michelle Phan actually had a license to use copyrighted music before when she was with the first Network she had started. She has moved around a bit in the Network area but she hasn't had that copyrighted music protection for a while now. So she has been neglecting the TOS on YouTube as well as copyright law. You'd think she'd be better covered since she's been on YouTube for so long and has had like two Networks. Trouble with copyrighted music is an amateur's mistake on YouTube.
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She actually didn't. Not for the particular types of arrangements she used. Obviously now that she is her own MCN, she would no longer have that protection even if that premise was correct.

And you guys need to stop taking thing so literally. Do they really want all her profits? No. But they're going to make her out to be the bad guy and threaten to take everything in order to get a better settlement. This will definitely be settled out of court and the lawsuit and all the press about it are all common legal ploys to get more money.
 
Wreckless Eating said:
She actually didn't. Not for the particular types of arrangements she used. Obviously now that she is her own MCN, she would no longer have that protection even if that premise was correct.

And you guys need to stop taking thing so literally. Do they really want all her profits? No. But they're going to make her out to be the bad guy and threaten to take everything in order to get a better settlement. This will definitely be settled out of court and the lawsuit and all the press about it are all common legal ploys to get more money.
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I just go by what the article said man. Plus I just have a problem with the whole "can't use copyrighted music" thing in general. If you do a lyric video, yeah I get that. If you just mirror a music video, absolutely, but having a song play in the background seems like it should be fine to me. I just feel like it's going to overboard to be like "Our song was quietly in the background of your video and you didn't pay us??" Like as long as someone linked to my channel I'd never feel wronged by someone putting my music in their video, I'd feel flattered. If they mirrored my video and profitted off of THAT yeah I'd be like "hold up now" but just in the background? Really rubs me the wrong way.
 
Symph said:
I just go by what the article said man. Plus I just have a problem with the whole "can't use copyrighted music" thing in general. If you do a lyric video, yeah I get that. If you just mirror a music video, absolutely, but having a song play in the background seems like it should be fine to me. I just feel like it's going to overboard to be like "Our song was quietly in the background of your video and you didn't pay us??" Like as long as someone linked to my channel I'd never feel wronged by someone putting my music in their video, I'd feel flattered. If they mirrored my video and profitted off of THAT yeah I'd be like "hold up now" but just in the background? Really rubs me the wrong way.
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Yep. TMZ. Totally unbiased and trustworthy.
 
This is probably a more credible source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/17/uk-copyright-phan-idUKKBN0FM2IY20140717

If you want the short version of the article, she used the music without a license. The record label informed her that she was using music from their artists without a license and she hasn't taken any action to contact them to license the music she is using.

If you read between the lines, the lawsuit is simply a warning to tell her to get out her wallet and pay for the damned license.
 
Wreckless Eating said:
This is probably a more credible source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/17/uk-copyright-phan-idUKKBN0FM2IY20140717

If you want the short version of the article, she used the music without a license. The record label informed her that she was using music from their artists without a license and she hasn't taken any action to contact them to license the music she is using.

If you read between the lines, the lawsuit is simply a warning to tell her to get out her wallet and pay for the damned license.
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Well now I feel naive lol
 
Symph said:
That DISGUSTS me. They want ALL her profits???? It's not like her friggin background music is the MEAT of her channel, it's HER, if they wanted a PORTION I'd still think they were being uptight asses but it would at least make a LITTLE sense. Screw those money hungry dicks.
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You remind me of an old friend. I used to talk to him around this time last year... I think his name was Symphonious7. I wonder what happened to that guy... He just kinda disappeared a few weeks ago. Eh... He's in a better place now. Hopefully he's taking care of my pet hamster for me, up there, on the big wheel. RIP.

So what I gather from this is, big s**t storm happens to scare some chick, and basically they want some, but not all of her money. I'm so grateful for people who simplify things like this for people like me, who are too lazy to read more than a sentence.
 
I'm honestly not surprised by this nor am I shocked. Larger companies will always do this for example viral videos. if a 30 second long video of say for example "Oh Kill Em" goes viral and theres a coke can just to the left of the screen but only in their for 1 frame. Coca Cola will be all over that s**t mainly because well it went viral, Oh Kill Em has made money and is publicity for Coca Cola so of course their going to want to get a cut from it and make a big scene of it.
 
I don't laugh at others misfortune. I don't know if this it legit or not. But I'll say this frankly this could happen to any of us if we use music that we don't make ourselves. Even if our networks say it's cool. Even if we believe 100% we have permission. Even if we have papers saying we have permission. You can file a lawsuit for anything in the United States. It's sad to see TMZ noticing a whole new crop of people to drag through the mud. The YouTuber. Great.
 
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