Massive drop in views on kid channels

FamilyToyReview said:
maybe they are targeting cocomelon upload schedule. perhaps there's a window of opportunity to be placed in suggested before youtube analyzes the video and resorts the suggestion section. maybe the window is 2 hours?

on my browser, the most recent cocomelon song (2 hours old) youtube.com/watch?v=KEZp5_DgABA

has a NikiChiki video as the NEXT video in suggestion. youtube.com/watch?v=3cu6dsBSVm8

and if i refresh a few times it suggests this other nikichiki video youtube.com/watch?v=y13fgw1t4aU

Also maybe livestream videos have different rules for suggested and its easier to get in there?

dave and ava channel is livestreaming right now youtube.com/watch?v=Ukm5UCstgkU

and on that video suggested i see nikichiki and bona nursery rhymes suggested.

pretty amazing the nikichiki channel is verified account and it only has 2 months of videos. My channel is couple years old with over 1,000 videos and im not verified yet.
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by they was that crazy nikkichikki video doesn't even have any tags and gets millions in a couple of days
\"lengthSeconds\":\"185\",\"channelId\":\"UCJvvmnaR7VxGu0lJ5lJzJDQ\",\"isOwnerViewing\":false,\"shortDescription\":\"교육으로 동요와 아기의 노래를 Twinkle Twinkle Little Star Mainan dan lagu anak-anak\",
 
You better look at that. These names are again in the top. Screenshots made on August 9, 2019
 

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IceDog said:
You better look at that. These names are again in the top. Screenshots made on August 9, 2019
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Yeah,. you tell me how is this possible !! The algorithm works wonders when they want it to...I always tell my wife we are an algorithm change away from a thousand dollars a day .. it already went the other way for us ! I can;t wait for it to swing back in our direction. Question is, are the somehow figuring out how to beat it, or is the algorithm favoring them on purpose...as in a human algo...in other words humans deciding who watches what !
 
dv2000 said:
look at this massive amount of views and then crazy drop https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCIZRZ90lXB_I-MfIvvb6HrA
maybe they are trying to battle these titles
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here's a pretty bad one
this is elsagate stuff. these guys are the reason our channels got hit in the first place. after reading that washingtonpost article. it sucks that youtube chose to keep their channel up. its not been removed. they have a couple other channels. and instead yt punished our channels.
 
FamilyToyReview said:
here's a pretty bad one
this is elsagate stuff. these guys are the reason our channels got hit in the first place. after reading that washingtonpost article. it sucks that youtube chose to keep their channel up. its not been removed. they have a couple other channels. and instead yt punished our channels.
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I agree. When we talked to yt partner they said a lot about good titles and description and it must have educational value and then they promote this
46 mil in 1 month


UPDATE: it looks like it got hit too https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC0-zgGJ2rN4aQc9DrJPiqXw
 
ianmacdon said:
until today....lots today.
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you are right,
I got some info but it is not proven. They think that manual human raters rated lots of channels and videos and chose what's good and what is not. All this data was fed to AI. Then they trained the AI to learn what is good and what is bad. And of course youtube launched a raw version of AI creating all this mess. So now it is not just tags and watchtime it's the computer that decides if your video is bad or not right after you uploaded it.
 
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