Massive drop in views on kid channels

then the algo shouldnt give them any kid traffic. There should be a system in place where if you dont mark for kids you get 0 kid traffic.
How exactly would they give a channel zero kid traffic if they won't even know which viewers are kids? That is why this is a joke. How can they protect kids like the they are saying the law is meant to do when you have no idea what viewers are actually kids!

But to go a step further, the law doesn't say kids cannot watch videos that are not strictly made to target kids. Videos can be kid friendly but cater to a wider audience then just to kids under 13. So if you make videos that kids can watch but your target audience doesn't just stop at 13 year olds, then your video isn't just for kids now is It. So how are they actually stopping the tracking of kids if at no point a viewer is asked for their age! How will YouTube not track the millions of kids who will be watching Dude Perfect videos?

Also, unless you are doing straight up little kid videos for toddlers and pre-schoolers where you are obviously not targeting teenagers to learn colors and numbers, why should channels have to limit themselves to a 13 or younger audience and lose out on all the features that matter to a channels success. This should be on YouTube to know their audience and not on the creator to limit their videos reach or worry about getting fined because of something so subjective as to who you are targeting.
 
then the algo shouldnt give them any kid traffic. There should be a system in place where if you dont mark for kids you get 0 kid traffic.
it appears to me , that the system is already in place, notce now if I click on a kids video, every suggested video is for kids, and if I click on an adult video, all the suggested are adult, there used to be a mixed bag of suggested. Not anymore.
 
How exactly would they give a channel zero kid traffic if they won't even know which viewers are kids? That is why this is a joke. How can they protect kids like the they are saying the law is meant to do when you have no idea what viewers are actually kids!

But to go a step further, the law doesn't say kids cannot watch videos that are not strictly made to target kids. Videos can be kid friendly but cater to a wider audience then just to kids under 13. So if you make videos that kids can watch but your target audience doesn't just stop at 13 year olds, then your video isn't just for kids now is It. So how are they actually stopping the tracking of kids if at no point a viewer is asked for their age! How will YouTube not track the millions of kids who will be watching Dude Perfect videos?

Also, unless you are doing straight up little kid videos for toddlers and pre-schoolers where you are obviously not targeting teenagers to learn colors and numbers, why should channels have to limit themselves to a 13 or younger audience and lose out on all the features that matter to a channels success. This should be on YouTube to know their audience and not on the creator to limit their videos reach or worry about getting fined because of something so subjective as to who you are targeting.
I guess if a kid starts watching peppa pig or any kid marked video the system knows it is a kid
 
it appears to me , that the system is already in place, notce now if I click on a kids video, every suggested video is for kids, and if I click on an adult video, all the suggested are adult, there used to be a mixed bag of suggested. Not anymore.

Still a mixed bag for my Youtube premium account watched by myself and two year old. Here is the suggested.

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Still a mixed bag for my Youtube premium account watched by myself and two year old. Here is the suggested.

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They must be rolling it out slowly , if that was mine, it would be all peppa , or all adult, not one kids video and vice versa...all peppa kids and no adult. Keep checking it by switching between a kids video and an adult ...thanks.
 
they are making mistake. Kids traffic is the most massive and a lot of 3-4 year olds remember their favorite cartoons and later come back to the platform

Most traffic on YT is probably 7-12 yos, which will never go into YT Kids because it sucks. Most kids watch Pewdiepie and play GTA, so all of this dumb s**t of marking all this content "for kids" is useless since kids don't watch content that is "for kids" (what those boomers think it's content for kids anyway)
 
That is what I said in my comment to the FTC. Channels like WWE, NFL, NBA all attract huge audiences of children under 13 (even if it's just 10-20% of their total views), yet their content is clearly not child directed. Those users will all still be tracked. In the end this will probably reduce the number of children having a personal identifier by a small percentage. Children that are under 13 using YouTube main will likely still continue to use it and consume whatever content YT feeds them so in the end I don't see having much of an affect in terms of reducing the tracking of children for the purposes of advertising.

Parents have to teach their kids that there is no such thing as free s**t, and ads is a way to make the content they like to watch to continue existing. Most parents don't care about ads, and those that do, use YT Kids. Don't ruin the internet because "muh kids see ads".
 
Youtube needs to acknowledge that kids content is so popular on the platform that if young kids actually abandoned the platform, it would be doomed for failure. Earlier this year, a study showed 12 of the top 20 videos on Youtube were aimed at children under 13. The mixed audience option is certainly something that needs to be considered, but if you think a lot of grown adults are watching channels that fall under mixed audience, you are sadly mistaken. Trying to create a way to masquerade as a mixed audience just so you can continue to target young children with personalized ads is very troublesome. Although they obviously exist, I have yet to meet a grown man that watches a 30 minute episode of a crazy voiced person playing Roblox. Most adults also don't have the available time or desire to watch another family cook/eat dinner and play a challenge game with slime. Adults watch reality shows for shocking content and scandals, not wholesome family fun. Sad revelation, but it is the truth folks. I recommend the following actions:

1. If you make content designed for kids under 13, you should be subject to a criminal background check and your identity should be verified. Some exceptions for large corporations would need to be made. If your personal life is a mess, how can you be trusted to produce kids content? How many more scandals and child abuse cases does Youtube need before they realize you can actually prevent this. Most criminals are what we call repeat offenders.
2. Mixed audience category is a slippery slope. Gamers and teen-aged themed family vlogs seem to meet this criteria, but this is a very complex issue. Channels can just migrate to a vlog style and pretend kids aren't watching. Remember the vast majority of views are coming from kids. Youtube won't acknowledge this, but there is strong proof of this. For this reason, I would not create a mixed audience category.
3. Personalized ads are needed for creator survival and Youtube will never allow an age gate because views will plummet. Instead Youtube should send automated emails to signed in accounts that watch children's content. In the email, they should solicit permission from the parents to track the viewing history for purposes of maintaining free access to Youtube supported by ads. Once permission is received, personalized ads will resume on all videos that is watched by that signed-in account until consent is revoked.
4. Some children watch youtube on tablets and phones that have no Youtube account signed-in. Youtube should run pre-roll ads promoting an option for parents to create Youtube accounts for their children that allow them to enable personalized ads. Youtube can create an incentive for parents to create an account on the device. They should not create an incentive to enable personalized ads, but most parents will probably consent once given the option.
5. The Youtube kids app needs to contain completely curated content from the most loyal and trusted kid content creators. Youtube has to dump money into this app to let advocacy groups know that they care about kids and COPPA. Creators will probably never make much money on the kids app, but creators can still gain name recognition on the app. Youtube can boost contextual ads on the kids app particularly in November and December. Youtube can even help create content with trusted kid content creators.


Beside the fact that it will always be impossible to know if you are making "content for 12 or 13 yos", if you do this massive "screening" on people before they upload content, you are guaranteed to have a brainwashing SJW-marxist vacuum only as "kids content" in which kids learn that ideology on repeat. What do you think those 100 million are going into? It will be Gillette ads for children.

The solution to all this has been here all the time, the only and timeless solution, let parents decide, ie: YT Kids. Let parents choose if they want tracking or not. Most parents don't give a f*ck about some minor harmless tracking done in order to:

1) Get appropriate ads (context ads can be gamed to show inappropriate stuff with metadata)
2) Said ads make possible that the people doing that content that kids like can continue producing it (and kids tend to like independent creators, they hate corporate crap, if they liked that they would just watch TV)

Like I said, there is this unsolvable 7+ year old area, were kids are too smart and know they are on this stupid "safe space" and they are missing on sub notifications, likes and dislikes, comments, and all the content they like to watch. If you show up with YT Kids past a certain age in class you get laughed at, I have younger relatives and this is a fact. This law treats anyone under 13 as toddlers when they play Fortnite and so on by that age. GTA is huge within 7-8+ demographic, pretty much all videogame content which can never be in YT Kids because for one reason or another, there may be just a single meme in the video that can't make it viable to show up on YT Kids' ridiculously PC-safe space vacuum. This law makes creators scared to be creative, specially those in this field of content were it may be right in the middle of this unsolvable grey area, with elements that can be child attractive (like bright colors, happening in a class setting, fun/derpy stuff etc) but also like to add more edgy stuff sometimes. Pretty much all gaming, animation, educational content.. anything creative and FUN falls into this insanity.

This whole clusterfuck has now reached comical levels, it reminds me of this:

 
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Well, I think it all boils down to much adue about nothing. This story articulates what the real problem is very well.

A modern Christmas Story.

IT SNOWED LAST NIGHT.....
8:00 am: My kids and I made a snowman.
8:10 - A feminist passed by and asked me why we didn't make a snow woman.
8:15 - So, we made a snow woman.
8:17 - My feminist neighbor complained about the snow woman's voluptuous chest saying it objectified snow women everywhere.
8:20 - The gay couple living nearby threw a hissy fit and moaned it should have been two snow men instead.
8:22 - The transgender man..women...person asked why I didn't just make one snow person with detachable parts.
8:25 - The vegans at the end of the lane complained about the carrot nose, as veggies are food and NOT to decorate snow figures with.
8:28 - We were being called a racist because the snow couple is white.
8:31 - The middle eastern gent across the road demanded the snow woman be covered up .
8:40 - The Police arrived saying someone had been offended.
8:42 - The feminist neighbor complained again that the broomstick of the snow woman needed to be removed because it depicted women in a domestic role.
8:43 - The council equality officer arrived and threatened us with eviction.
8:45 - TV news crew from ABC showed up. I was asked if I know the difference between snowmen and snow-women? I replied "Snowballs" and am now called a sexist.
9:00 - I was on the News as a suspected terrorist, racist, homophobe sensibility offender, bent on stirring up trouble during difficult weather.
9:10 - I was asked if I have any accomplices. My children were taken by social services.
9:29 - Far left protesters offended by everything marched down the street demanding for me to be arrested.
9:45 - The FTC threatened to sue me 42K because I did not designate the display as Not for Children.

Moral of the Story:

This is what happens when you have too many SNOWFLAKES!
 
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