Do you think YT limits your views with quota?

[wasabiroots]

Ah, I can see what you mean clearer now, the 'throttling' is describing when youtube drops you from recommended, but I think that all has to do with how long viewers stay on youtube after your video, or how long they watch (watchtime) bigger channels will generally get longer watchtime thanks to a fanbase, so its certainly harder for small channels, but definitely not impossible! just got to put as much quality and effort into your videos, so that if that one gets a shot at going viral, it really takes off because its also a fantastic video

That's what I mean about performance and throttled in a sense.

But I'm thinking its more like this, for example, yesterday its getting this many clicks per minute or this many watch time so today you get this much promotion until the video performs better and vice versa. Because youtube has a lot of videos and I mean a lot! How are they going to be able to test for other videos if they don't throttle and just leave the video there without giving other videos a chance?

To code something like that, they should have a set amount of thing to limit a video to trigger the test of another video...its for a purpose. Bare in mind, youtube is mostly computer coded they don't have a heart...its all data.

People think its unfair, I think its trying its best to be fair and what creators need to do is just try to make good content and make youtube themselves approve of the video.

Those approved always get priority while those tested gets to be in the spot for a certain amount of time or views (I dunno yet) hence throttled.

 

[Uncivilized Elk]

This semantic squabble is really making me facepalm, lol (not at anyone in specific, just in general).

Throttling implies something is actively working against you.
A lack or lapse in aiding you is not the same as actively working against you.

This thread title literally has the word "limits" in it. There are no limits of any kind. There's merely an algorithm trying to ascertain what will get the most traffic flow.

You may think the effects are similar between terms, but the methodology and the manner in which these events unfold (which is a thing that actually matters, especially if you want to benefit from it) are different.

Also the conception that YT will limit your views if you're doing well is flat-out incorrect. You will not be penalized for doing well relatively (and in the end it's all about relative stat performance).

 

[xingcat]

Also the conception that YT will limit your views if you're doing well is flat-out incorrect. You will not be penalized for doing well relatively (and in the end it's all about relative stat performance).

Exactly. Thanks for fighting the good fight, Elk.

 

[Uncivilized Elk]

I'm like a major proponent of the concept that YT is ****ed and far too luck-based and cuts off most channels from growing unless they pander to certain demographics or copy certain types of crap content that gets lots of views.

But even I'm never going to make a claim like YT actively works against you by limiting your views when you finally start doing well, lol.

 

[wasabiroots]

Oh you uncivilised elk, I facepalm at your facepalm.

I don't know if you notice... Not everyone here has English as their first language or studied English until university or is in the same age group to understand a single word as only 1 meaning. Even dictionaries have more than one meaning for some words... People have limits to their English as well so understanding/use could be different per person.

Throttling implies something is actively working against you.
A lack or lapse in aiding you is not the same as actively working against you.

Also, we're not saying youtube is not aiding us (nothing there indicating that we are not being bumped/suggested). At least, I'm saying it IS aiding and throttling at the same time. Like we ARE getting suggested/promoted/bumped BY YOUTUBE but what we're getting is this much everytime.

Or like what I said earlier when a video of mine got more external sources than usual, since the video gets this much views, I thought overall views should increase as well for the day. Rather, suggested views got less than normal and overall views seems to get normalised...

Then after a few days, the suggested views got back to how it was normally or maybe a bit better when there was no external source. Get it? As if something is getting throttled. Thus my belief in it getting throttled. I don't know what their circumstances are to think that there's throttling on their channel as well.

Anyways, it just irks me when you seem 100% sure its not throttled at all... Like how are you so sure?

YT doesn't throttle channels.

Though I have to agree about this:

Also the conception that YT will limit your views if you're doing well is flat-out incorrect.

If it limits a video that's doing well...why even try to improve or make better content... >.>" sigh... That has to be incorrect, it goes against a lot of things.

 

[Omgitz Herp]

I Say hey if YT is helping you row your youtube channel then great this is why is such a great website to use

 

[Uncivilized Elk]

Get it? As if something is getting throttled.

No, I don't "get it" because nothing of this is compelling evidence whatsoever for the scenario that because you're getting views from external sources YT will decide to stop promoting you in suggested videos. You agreed with my last point, and yet are arguing against it with that very line of reasoning.

Suggested views (homepage views too) in general decrease through time if:
1.) No new video comes out and gets a suggested view stream (which takes a few days after release to happen)
2.) Your past videos aren't getting latched onto new suggested sources to compensate for the decay of views elsewhere

It's easily possible to see a simple normal decrease in views from one source, and a net increase in another when you release a new video. For most channels views generally trickle down through time, so releasing a new video could simply be offsetting the natural view drop that occurs. That doesn't imply causation between the two on a part of algorithm that wants to penalize you AT ALL. And new videos don't tend to get majorly implemented into suggested or homepage recommendations until a day or two past their release (even fairly on large channels). Chances are the views you're losing are from completely different videos, and YT tends to treat videos as individual objects - it's not going to penalize a completely different video of yours because you shared a new one - that's ludicrous.

New videos get views predominantly from subs, searches, and external sources. The suggested and recommended views for that new video won't kick in for a few days. In the meantime, your older videos can have their view rates continue to decay with time, which for the average video is a normal occurrence. That's a normal relationship you describe that you're mistakenly accounting toward "throttling" of some sort. Then when your new video is a few days old, its traffic from external sources, subs, (and sometimes searches but not really) quiets down but it's possible you can start picking up suggested and homepage views.

There's no throttling. End of story.[DOUBLEPOST=1458311519,1458310879][/DOUBLEPOST]For fun, here's the graph of my own traffic sources over the past month (every day was at least a couple thousand views minimum on here, so the random/sporadic nature of small numbers isn't playing too huge of a roll). I'd love for somebody to point out where this "throttling" is occurring:

 

[wasabiroots]

No, I don't "get it"

That's the problem here~ Oh well~~~

Plus opinions bro, speculations. I'm not even saying my belief there about throttling is true as true can be. I'm saying there is a chance and I think there is.

I'm agreeing with the last point because of what I said before.

But I'm thinking its more like this, for example, yesterday its getting this many clicks per minute or this many watch time so today you get this much promotion until the video performs better and vice versa. Because youtube has a lot of videos and I mean a lot! How are they going to be able to test for other videos if they don't throttle and just leave the video there without giving other videos a chance?

Performance for that day or week. They need to test other videos from other channels that haven't proven their worth as well. You're given this amount of time/views/what ever limiter they give and assess you that way. Youtube has a big database and a loooot of smaller channels that haven't proven their worth. How are they gonna test them all if there's no limit involved?

Those that have proven their worth in terms of performance gets picked to be promoted better. How are you not understanding this?

Anyways, it happened a few times when my channel was newer. Its from memory, I don't promote anymore now so I don't have any analytics to show.

 

[Uncivilized Elk]

Those that have proven their worth in terms of performance gets picked to be promoted better. How are you not understanding this?

How are you not understanding that is not throttling nor does that have anything to do with YT limiting your views?

 

[wasabiroots]

How are you not understanding that is not throttling nor does that have anything to do with YT limiting your views?

What is your opinion when someone says the performance of a video?