Do you think YT limits your views with quota?

Uncivilized Elk said:
YT doesn't throttle channels.

It can promote you in the homepage and suggested vids or it could not do it at all. It may promote you for a while and then drop you, either due to underperformance or some new algorithmic parameters from newly released videos that may get the spotlight you used to have. Promotion can happen for a day or weeks, it all depends on a lot of factors. With high enough popularity you can get some videos to remain on the homepage promotion indefinitely until the view rate slows down to a crawl (I call this stage "peak viewership"), but there's no way to predict how long a video will be promoted unless it's doing absolutely phenomenal stats-wise.

There's no "throttling" - that is a completely incorrect term for it.

YT can give you "bumps" (think of the infamous Colbert bump that Stephen Colbert used to mention on his show). It basically gives you visibility to viewers (who might otherwise never encounter you) by displaying your stuff alongside whatever else a person might be watching.

But it does not somehow "throttle" you. That doesn't even make sense.
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You say bumpmato i say throttato :)
 
FamilyToyReview said:
You say bumpmato i say throttato :)
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I actually just edited a response to that into my last post before you submitted that reply.

They are completely different things. You cannot just choose to make them equivalent - that's not how language works.

If throttling and bumping were equivalent, you'd have zero reason to make this thread in the first place. After all, when going on YT without being logged in from a computer with zero search history, how many videos on the homepage will have less than 1k views? Hell, try how many will have less than 100k views?
If you describe that scenario as throttling smaller channels, then you already have your answer without making this thread.

Clearly, you're talking about something different.

A disparity in promotion on YT's behalf is not equivalent to throttling.
 
Uncivilized Elk said:
I actually just edited a response to that into my last post before you submitted that reply.

They are completely different things. You cannot just choose to make them equivalent - that's not how language works.

If throttling and bumping were equivalent, you'd have zero reason to make this thread in the first place. After all, when going on YT without being logged in from a computer with zero search history, how many videos on the homepage will have less than 1k views? Hell, try how many will have less than 100k views?
If you describe that scenario as throttling smaller channels, then you already have your answer without making this thread.

Clearly, you're talking about something different.

A disparity in promotion on YT's behalf is not equivalent to throttling.
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Under throttling I meant that YT gives you assigned interval of traffic and views. If you start to fall under it YT algorithm will help you. If you start to go over it - you'll be punished (disconnected gateway videos and so on). With other words it uses the "carrot and stick" method.
I checked throttling in the dictionary (I am not native speaker) and it seems it is more related to the "punishment" part.
So yes... - the truth is somewhere in the middle. :)
 
Uncivilized Elk said:
YT doesn't throttle channels.

It can promote you in the homepage and suggested vids or it could not do it at all. It may promote you for a while and then drop you, either due to underperformance or some new algorithmic parameters from newly released videos that may get the spotlight you used to have. Promotion can happen for a day or weeks, it all depends on a lot of factors. With high enough popularity you can get some videos to remain on the homepage promotion indefinitely until the view rate slows down to a crawl (I call this stage "peak viewership"), but there's no way to predict how long a video will be promoted unless it's doing absolutely phenomenal stats-wise.

There's no "throttling" - that is a completely incorrect term for it. You're completely reversing the actual relationship here. YT may not boost you. That is completely different from it throttling you.

YT can give you "bumps" (think of the infamous Colbert bump that Stephen Colbert used to mention on his show). It basically gives you visibility to viewers (who might otherwise never encounter you) by displaying your stuff alongside whatever else a person might be watching.

But it does not somehow "throttle" you. That doesn't even make sense.
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I thought that's what this person means about throttling and how I think youtube is throttling other videos to give way for other videos to be checked.

Youtube makes you visible for this amount of time or amount of views (give or take a few hundred or thousand, I dunno) then takes you out of the visibility according to how your video performs and then giving a different video the visibility instead, rather than leaving your video there for an indefinite amount of time.

The way it gives you visibility is a bump and the taking you away from that spot is throttling... Is my understanding of this wrong or what?

Like, sure it throttles you, just make better videos and it should help in the future...

Anyways, this situation almost feels like the "is this cup half full or half empty" situation really. You're looking at it from the half full perspective while OP is looking at it through the half empty perspective.
 
Uncivilized Elk said:
I actually just edited a response to that into my last post before you submitted that reply.

They are completely different things. You cannot just choose to make them equivalent - that's not how language works.

If throttling and bumping were equivalent, you'd have zero reason to make this thread in the first place. After all, when going on YT without being logged in from a computer with zero search history, how many videos on the homepage will have less than 1k views? Hell, try how many will have less than 100k views?
If you describe that scenario as throttling smaller channels, then you already have your answer without making this thread.

Clearly, you're talking about something different.

A disparity in promotion on YT's behalf is not equivalent to throttling.
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We are actually talking about something different.

its ok though i counted you in the nay category.

By the way, we're missing something big here. bumpmato and throtatto are both awesome words.[DOUBLEPOST=1458301213,1458300978][/DOUBLEPOST]
wasabiroots said:
I thought that's what this person means about throttling and how I think youtube is throttling other videos to give way for other videos to be checked.

Youtube makes you visible for this amount of time or amount of views (give or take a few hundred or thousand, I dunno) then takes you out of the visibility according to how your video performs and then giving a different video the visibility instead, rather than leaving your video there for an indefinite amount of time.

The way it gives you visibility is a bump and the taking you away from that spot is throttling... Is my understanding of this wrong or what?

Like, sure it throttles you, just make better videos and it should help in the future...

Anyways, this situation almost feels like the "is this cup half full or half empty" situation really. You're looking at it from the half full perspective while OP is looking at it through the half empty perspective.
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cup analogy is a perfect response.
 
chottom said:
If you start to fall under it YT algorithm will help you. If you start to go over it - you'll be punished
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NOOOOOOOO. Gotta MASSIVELY disagree with this.

I am speaking largely from personal experience, but I've seen and talked to other people about their experience too (one of these channels I've talked to has over 100k subs).

To use your threshold lingo:
If your video falls under it, it will be dropped more likely than anything. Say goodbye to that video continuing to be promoted. It will actually stick out with how relatively few views it has to your other stuff.

If you go over, chances are you'll get an "up next" slot on yet another popular video, or get even more homepage promotion. And if you've just recently gotten a "suggested videos" snag and got a lot of traffic/clickthrough from it, YT is practically guaranteed to throw your vid onto homepage promotion as well, not throttle you (every single time one of my more popular videos got that initial snag of "suggested video" flowthrough, it always a couple days or so later got thrown into homepage promotion). Hell no, if your video is doing super well YT will promote the living hell out of you until the video's stats start to wane.


YT's algorithms are heavily based around snowball effects. Y'all are implying the exact opposite. Once an object is in motion, YT tries to keep it in motion. If an object is at a standstill, YT tends to keep it at a standstill. Not the opposite.
 
My opinion is that if you rank a video then you will get new subscribers and views, it does not really matter if you are a big or a small channel.

But this said youtube suggest me always those big channels that I do not watch. they sometimes promote other small channel but not to the point that I will recognize them later.

Most of my vieweship is from America but i am based in Japan; I don't really know how it affects me.
 
wasabiroots said:
I thought that's what this person means about throttling and how I think youtube is throttling other videos to give way for other videos to be checked.

Youtube makes you visible for this amount of time or amount of views (give or take a few hundred or thousand, I dunno) then takes you out of the visibility according to how your video performs and then giving a different video the visibility instead, rather than leaving your video there for an indefinite amount of time.

The way it gives you visibility is a bump and the taking you away from that spot is throttling... Is my understanding of this wrong or what?

Like, sure it throttles you, just make better videos and it should help in the future...

Anyways, this situation almost feels like the "is this cup half full or half empty" situation really. You're looking at it from the half full perspective while OP is looking at it through the half empty perspective.
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Ah, I can see what you mean clearer now, the 'throttling' is describing when youtube drops you from recommended, but I think that all has to do with how long viewers stay on youtube after your video, or how long they watch (watchtime) bigger channels will generally get longer watchtime thanks to a fanbase, so its certainly harder for small channels, but definitely not impossible! just got to put as much quality and effort into your videos, so that if that one gets a shot at going viral, it really takes off because its also a fantastic video
 
I'm going to try to summarize what I've said into one sentence:

If YT drops promoting your video in favor of another, it's because it "thinks" (algorithmically) the other video might do better than yours, not because you're doing too well.
 
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