Why you should NEVER do "sub for sub"

i was one of the pathetic peeps who tried "sub for sub"...for about an hour. then i realized just how sad it was. i got lucky and collaborated on a song with a more popular youtuber, and now i have 66 subscribers (from like 2 lol) and almost 5,000 page hits. i know i definitely need to add more content, but at least i feel like i'm heading in the right direction. i hope to learn from everyone here, whether it be from each person's success or failures (let's face it, 99.9% of us failed at least once when starting out). great thread, btw.
 
Yeah I agree with what all of you have said. The sad part is that now, more and more people feel the need to sub4sub because they are either overwhelmed and dont know how to get subscribers. Or they are impatient and only want to feel "famous". Or for me, I felt like it would make me feel better to get a few extra subs. But then I realized how the people I subbed and subbed me back had literally NO common interests. But ive grown a little since then.

I think im having a creative block, or maybe a beginners block where idk what I want to make. I have ideas, but in my mind they have to be perfect or else I cant post them.. My problem in a nutshell=perfectionist :/
 
I did that in the beginning, on here when I was still very new and very much inexperienced and yeah ,it wasn't a good thing. I would bleed subscribers as they got bored and decided to unsub me, and I could never keep track of who was who. Regardless though it has now stabilised but it was a very rocky start
 
EasyE said:
I've never actually had to stoop so low as to sub for sub in order to get subscribers. I personal think it is a terrible method to getting subscribers and that you should never do it. Unfortunately, so many people who seem to be desperate for subscribers do this on a daily bases. Even my best friend did this method and the results were very disappointing. I'll tell you in this majestic thread on why you should NEVER do sub for sub.

Absolutely no connections

Can you imagine subscribing to a channel and you don't even know what kind of videos they do? Can you imagine subscribing to someone and you have never even bothered watching one of their videos. Finally can you imagine subscribing to a channel and you never go back to it again? This is what sub for sub does. You are going to get subscribers that literally do not have any connections with you or your videos. In fact they are not loyal, nor do they have the same activeness as a real subscriber who has subscribed because they want to see your videos. Trust me, your so called subscribers will increase your sub count by a little sure, but your not progressing in any way. So the only thing your doing is filling your channel with complete strangers.

No purpose

Anyone who does sub for sub I can give you a decent yet accurate description of yourself in a few words: no purpose. What are you doing? Ask yourself that. Your not making videos for fun are you? You have no goals other then just amassing subscribers. Your not getting anywhere with yourself as a Youtuber. It's harsh to say but people who sub for sub are either desperate, foolish or just plain greedy. If your going to sub for sub then why bother starting Youtube, any fool can do this so what's the point? That's right there is no point, it's not worth doing.

Shows that your incapable

If your really doing sub for sub and have like 1000 subscribers well guess what this just shows how incapable you are of getting real subscribers from videos. The only real legit way anyone gets subscribers is if a person has seen a video, like the style and want more. If you can't even make a few decent videos to attract some subscribers then your really not ready, and you shouldn't even be trying if this is your idea of getting famous and rich. Believe me, I've met so many people with the ideology of getting popular from just doing sub for sub and you know how far they got? Not very far as you can imagine.

So in a nutshell, you get unloyal strangers into your channel, have no purpose with your channel and pretty much are telling people that you can't make videos like everyone else. Sub for sub is a horrible method of getting subscribers and if your doing it now I will tell you now you will never be successful or satisfied as you will only want more and more. Anyways, just don't do it, and keep on trying! Hope this helps ^_^
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Perfect Post man just perfect :D
 
Subs for subs gives you fake subs, the subscriber didn't sub because of content, but for him/her self. You want faithful, active subscribers that will share, and enjoy your videos, which is much better than a fake sub who is only in it for self gain. Good question!
 
I considered sub 4 subbing for about 2 minutes, and I don't necessarily blame people who do it. The desire/need/want for new subs when your channel is brand new is very strong, and each new sub is noticed and welcomed. I get that. But trading subs takes away the meaning of it so I'm doing it the old-fashioned way.
 
i agree sub4sub is a terrible system especially when the people that sub you are not dedicated subscribers. i call them "ghost subs" and id rather have 100 subs and get 500 views a video than have 1000 subs and 30 views a video, not only that by doing a system like this youtubes new algorithm actually ranks your channel lower and makes it much more difficult to find your channel in searches!
 
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