So you want to be a partner.

urbanlamb said:
shall i quote your first post?
"Honestly urbanlamb if I had a dollar for every time you threatened to abandon the forum.."

about threats and passive aggressiveness.

you seem pretty damned interested in minding others business. So live by your own words then.
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yeah i am not gonna debate it I dont sign up to this site to watch every video and click on ever add and like every thing in fact I only actually follow about 5 people out of the 1,000 on this forum. This forum is not a view trading site or sub trading site although those features exist like it does on that site. Whether you partake of it its up to you. sub4sub is bad but some people are fixated on subs they are still dead subs though and its up to you if you want dead subs or not. The reality is though that even youtube says its bad so whatevers. Again dont take my word for it ask any marketer out there but the real kind you know not those sites that sell views and hits but marketers who set up campaigns for people.

I am just attempting to show people how to get the right kind of traffic I am sorry but fireviews is "the wrong kind of traffic"
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I have done sub4sub before. Not a lot but enough to know that a couple of those people still watch my videos because they still show up on their homepage when you release a new video. I have even gotten comments from sub4subbers. And I swear I only did it with like 10-15 people at the most. Also no matter who it is that subs to my channel I ALWAYS sub back. I don't care if they have 0 subscribers and 0r video views its common courtesy in my mind.
 
I have used growsocials.com as well :) I subbed to a few people from there and I also gained a few subs. They are real views and real people watching your videos. It is not illegal to use on Youtube, and can be a great promotional tool. There is an option you can use so that people ONLY sub to you because they legitimetley WANT to....I don't see anything wrong with that at all.
 
itsameray said:
I have done sub4sub before. Not a lot but enough to know that a couple of those people still watch my videos because they still show up on their homepage when you release a new video. I have even gotten comments from sub4subbers. And I swear I only did it with like 10-15 people at the most. Also no matter who it is that subs to my channel I ALWAYS sub back. I don't care if they have 0 subscribers and 0r video views its common courtesy in my mind.
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I have a few sub4sub to try it out but I have never seen any of them watch my stuff and I dont watch theirs lol. Those who sub my channel I check out their channel first if I think i wont watch they stuff I dont sub. In the end subs dont matter views do. The only subs that matter are the ones that are going to access the video from their subscriber module. I have a lot of dead subs from this forum now and I dont really want em lol. Unfortunately it seems youtube has removed that button. I used to go through my subs every few months and remove those who looked like dead subs to me. That is why I had very few subs lol. I used to actively delete what I thought were inactive accounts. It seems youtube removed that feature .
 
Katherinejane001 said:
I have used growsocials.com as well :) I subbed to a few people from there and I also gained a few subs. They are real views and real people watching your videos. It is not illegal to use on Youtube, and can be a great promotional tool. There is an option you can use so that people ONLY sub to you because they legitimetley WANT to....I don't see anything wrong with that at all.
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thats fine but its still defined as "the wrong kind of traffic" with regard to videos

I have put my facebook page on there though. I would never ever place a youtube video on there however or a website. The reality is though that I dont think any of them has liked my facebook page posts . I gave it one shot and watched the people who did the liking. They never liked anything I posted to my page. So i got no views from it = waste of time lol.

Again I put up info on how to get active new traffic take it or leave it. However i know its more effective then growsocials and fireviews etc lol so its up to you what you want to spend your time doing. If you try to earn money with those empty views though people are going to take issue with it. Again its up to you. As long as its just to pimp a channel with no ads go for it. If you intend to go pro though you might want to think about that a bit :)
 
JustKevYTP said:
you are a godsend, amazing article.
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ty still working on it. I actually at one time or another posted all this info somewhere here before but it kind of sunk on the forums. Hopefully I can keep this near the top since I have the link in my signature. Just trying to find the rest of the info or remember what i said before
 
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