So you want to be a partner.

[Stef]

If you're not going to name names then don't bother saying anything about it in the first place; I can't stand indirect, passive aggressiveness. I notice you are very hung up about what other people are doing and using, when the solution is as simple as just focusing on yourself. Can you explain to me how does it affect you personally? I don't really like your 'I have no interest in socializing with anyone on the site but I will however use the site to promote my stuff' attitude, urbanlamb. It's obvious that there will be people that will join the site just to use it for that, but for someone that's been a member for as long as you have, it's unfortunate to see you have this point of view.

 

[urbanlamb]

If you're not going to name names then don't bother saying anything about it in the first place; I can't stand indirect, passive aggressiveness. I notice you are very hung up about what other people are doing and using, when the solution is as simple as just focusing on yourself. Can you explain to me how does it affect you personally? I don't really like your 'I have no interest in socializing with anyone on the site but I will however use the site to promote my stuff' attitude, urbanlamb. It's obvious that there will be people that will join the site just to use it for that, but for someone that's been a member for as long as you have, it's unfortunate to see you have this point of view.

if your not here to learn then get out of the thread at this point the reality is that I am not here to name names. I am trying to teach the right way. As usual though I am dragging people kicking and screaming through it and being judged for it. Communities are not about self sorry. Its unfortunate that you think people should just close their eyes and not care about what happens around them. I do.

 

[VlogRays]

ask any marketer why those sites are bad including the pro marketer who kind of wisks in and out that ray dude. They will explain it. This is another reason why I can't be bothered to "name names" I dont want to argue over it. Its wrong its not B.S. and anyone who said otherwise to you is either lying to you or stupid. dont believe it ITS WRONG
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Nope its a view trading site also known as a traffic rotator. All you have to do is read what comes up in the search engines to find that out it says "get viewed by viewing others" its not real traffic. Its a bunch of people on there with to sole purpose of trading views comments and likes. Its not real.

I kinda view it like sub4sub kinda...at least its a real person that is watching the video and not some dead account that just gives you dead views and subs.

 

[urbanlamb]

I kinda view it as sub4sub kinda...at least its a real person that is watching the video and not some dead account that just gives you dead views and subs.

its the same concept of sub 4 sub. Its why I try to only sub to channels I am interested on this forum the ones I really like and empty sub and a silent like is not very helpful. If I subbed to all the channels on this forum and never watched their stuff I am a dead sub. That person is not there for any other reason other then to view another persons video so they can get views. They might not even like it. They are just their so churn views. There is no interest the person is not going to like become your groupy . If say you want to sell some product a book or video or music they wont buy it they will never buy it. Its an empty worthless low quality view.

 

[Stef]

Its unfortunate that you think people should just close their eyes and not care about what happens around them.

I didn't say that, love, please don't put words in my mouth. This started out as a legitimate topic aimed at helping people but quickly delved into yet another thinly veiled attack on the people that are partner's on this site. So, at this point I will leave this thread because I have nothing to 'learn' and I hope people actually see what's going on here.

 

[HotDangProductions]

Nope its a view trading site also known as a traffic rotator. All you have to do is read what comes up in the search engines to find that out it says "get viewed by viewing others" its not real traffic. Its a bunch of people on there with to sole purpose of trading views comments and likes. Its not real.

Wouldn't this site be considered a view trading site because people come here for the sole purpose of promoting their videos and watching other peoples work (aka the same as fireviews). Also if you don't agree with fireviews, thats fine; but it is false to say it's not real because it is real people.

 

[urbanlamb]

I didn't say that, love, please don't put words in my mouth. This started out as a legitimate topic aimed at helping people but quickly delved into yet another thinly veiled attack on the people that are partner's on this site. So, at this point I will leave this thread because I have nothing to 'learn' and I hope people actually see what's going on here.

shall i quote your first post?
"Honestly urbanlamb if I had a dollar for every time you threatened to abandon the forum.."

about threats and passive aggressiveness.

you seem pretty damned interested in minding others business. So live by your own words then.
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Wouldn't this site be considered a view trading site because people come here for the sole purpose of promoting their videos and watching other peoples work (aka the same as fireviews). Also if you don't agree with fireviews, thats fine; but it is false to say it's not real because it is real people.

yeah i am not gonna debate it I dont sign up to this site to watch every video and click on ever add and like every thing in fact I only actually follow about 5 people out of the 1,000 on this forum. This forum is not a view trading site or sub trading site although those features exist like it does on that site. Whether you partake of it its up to you. sub4sub is bad but some people are fixated on subs they are still dead subs though and its up to you if you want dead subs or not. The reality is though that even youtube says its bad so whatevers. Again dont take my word for it ask any marketer out there but the real kind you know not those sites that sell views and hits but marketers who set up campaigns for people.

I am just attempting to show people how to get the right kind of traffic I am sorry but fireviews is "the wrong kind of traffic"

 

[HotDangProductions]

I am just attempting to show people how to get the right kind of traffic I am sorry but fireviews is "the wrong kind of traffic"

I suppose we shall just have to agree to disagree

 

[Symph]

UL, I don't need to talk to anyone about this, I USE the site. And when I'm watching videos I ACTUALLY WATCH THEM, and I myself have subbed to people when I like their content, maybe not EVERYONE does it, but alot of them do. You don't get views for subbing people from those sites, so when someone subs me because of fireviews, they really watched, and wanted to sub. I couldn't care less what your friend has to say about it, I know this first hand. Anyway, I'm sick of this, I'm trying to be nice UL but you're just going so over the top with telling people they're bad for using perfectly legit promotional tools I'm sick of it, I'm gonna stay out of this from now on.

 

[urbanlamb]

UL, I don't need to talk to anyone about this, I USE the site. And when I'm watching videos I ACTUALLY WATCH THEM, and I myself have subbed to people when I like their content, maybe not EVERYONE does it, but alot of them do. You don't get views for subbing people from those sites, so when someone subs me because of fireviews, they really watched, and wanted to sub. I couldn't care less what your friend has to say about it, I know this first hand. Anyway, I'm sick of this, I'm trying to be nice UL but you're just going so over the top with telling people they're bad for using perfectly legit promotional tools I'm sick of it, I'm gonna stay out of this from now on.

Well good for you but its still wrong. I am not gonna tell you how to lead your life and its your choice if you want to game the system. Good luck in your music career may you sell lots of albums on fireview!