Hot Topic New monetization changes: 4k hours & 1k subs (**discussion here only**)

Slava Youtube said:
1000 subscribers and 4000 hours is nothing at all. Why are you talking about small creators like a stand alone category of creators who want to remain small all the time? =)
There is no point to waste your time if you cannot reach 1000 and 4000 numbers. Or you just doing this as your hobby for fun. Then you shoudn't care about this 3$ per month monetization income.
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I totally agree with your opinion. However, small creators will not waste their times into building surrounding community and editing efficient contents without getting any cents in return. Personally speaking, i believe 3$ per month is better than zero, in comparison to the effort and time consumed to reach the new monetization threshold. At least 3$ per month ( 36 per year ) can help small creator to buy a video editor that be more efficient.
 
My statements were not about what Youtube Can do, Should do or the Effectiveness of their methods. My statements were about whether it is right and just to punish everyone (small channels) in order to punish a few bad actors?

Many people have presented arguments based on their opinion as to why youtube has done this, and have tried marginalized how it has hurt small channels.

We don't have to guess at why youtube made this move, they have already told us. It was because of a few bad actors who were abusing the system. Youtubes own statement! So they are in fact punishing all small channels because of a few, because they are Demonetizing tens of thousands of small channels that did nothing wrong.

I understand that there needs to be some things done to prevent abuse, but it is never just or right to punish everyone because of the bad actions of a few. No matter how you try to spin it, it is not right.

The simple truth is, there are a much better and effective ways to stop abuse that targets just the bad guys and does not punsih thousands of innocent people, that would be way more effective then what youtube did, which is absolutely useless. These new requirements won't stop the bad guys for a second. They can already subvert them.

So the only people being hurt are the innocent honest creators. That is the truth!
 
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4000 hours a years is nothing, but 1000 subs is a lot if you are trying to do serious quality meaningful content. My channel has been getting 4000 hours of watch time a "Month" (not a year) for years and I only got to 1000 subs this year. Why? Because my target audience is mature responsible people that don't just hit the subscribe button on every funny, silly, nonsensical video they watch.

It took me 5 years to reach 1000 subs and I only started getting subs after I was "Invited" to monetized by youtube last year, which encouraged me to focus more on developing my channel. So it was monetization that encoraged me to grow my channel, not the other way around. If youtube had not invited me to monetize, I would have probably never developed my channel and reached the 1000 subs mark.

Youtube has basically killed off the small creator, because they have made the bar to reach eligibility impossible to anyone who wants to do serious videos as a hobby. Youtube will become a place for stupid nonsensical SpongeBob garbage that teenagers will subscribe to in droves because it makes them laugh. The small time mature serious creators will go somewhere else.
 
Jungle Explorer said:
Seriously, dumbest argument I have ever heard. Tell me what the vast majority of small channels did wrong to deserve to be punished by youtube and demonetized? What did they do wrong?
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How exactly were they punished?

The only real difference to the vast majority (90%+ of those effected was that they can't see their Adsense grow by $3 every month... money that they'd likely never see unless they grew to (or near) the new guidelines anyway. That's it.

If seeing the few sense a day was their motivation, then the new guidelines should be as well.


Jungle Explorer said:
It took me 5 years to reach 1000 subs and I only started getting subs after I was "Invited" to monetized by youtube last year, which encouraged me to focus more on developing my channel. So it was monetization that encoraged me to grow my channel, not the other way around. If youtube had not invited me to monetize, I would have probably never developed my channel and reached the 1000 subs mark.
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So how is that any different than what is happening now? You just said that you grew your channel because of monetizing as the encouragement. People have the same option now... while using the new guidelines as a goal.



Jungle Explorer said:
Youtube has basically killed off the small creator, because they have made the bar to reach eligibility impossible to anyone who wants to do serious videos as a hobby. Youtube will become a place for stupid nonsensical SpongeBob garbage that teenagers will subscribe to in droves because it makes them laugh. The small time mature serious creators will go somewhere else.
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When YouTube started, there was no monetizing. Even when ads were introduced, it was only for very, very large channels... yet creators, such as myself and countless others still joined and shared our videos.

Those who are in it to make videos will continue to do so... and they have the same exact tools available to them now as they did a week ago. Nothing has changed. They are not being punished.
 
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YouTube disabled my AdSense account as soon as I made my channel, so it’s unlikely I’ll ever earn a penny from my videos (especially since I’m unable to link another AdSense account to my channel, RIP) - but that hasn’t stopped me for the last 3 years and it certainly won’t stop me now. I love making videos, they make me happy. It stopped being about the money a long time ago.
 
For those who are starting now, there is no need to worry about enable monetization and adsense and all that stuff right? Not at least until (and if) these new goals are reached.
 
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Jungle Explorer said:
All I am going to say is that I was making $100 a month long before I got to 1000 subs, so ypu can keep claiming this $3 a month thing until you are blue in the face, but it just makes you look dumb.
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From YouTube's announcement....

Though these changes will affect a significant number of channels, 99% of those affected were making less than $100 per year in the last year, with 90% earning less than $2.50 in the last month.​
 
Shakycow said:
From YouTube's announcement....

Though these changes will affect a significant number of channels, 99% of those affected were making less than $100 per year in the last year, with 90% earning less than $2.50 in the last month.​
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so I guess that puts me in the top 10% of small channels.......lol I suppose maybe I can feel good about that I guess.....lol my analytics is showing $3.34 in the last 28 days. how ever I am sure if I had been working on it for a year id be over the threshold already.

kind of irritating though I mean what I would have earned by the time I reach that could have bought some new camera gear and things for improving quality and made me feel better about spending some more money on making video.
 
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