Evidence For Increased CPM With Networks?

Reina said:
I'm not targetting this at Flammy and I'm doing my job as a moderator. You've only been here for a few weeks, so how do you know that he's being targetted? If you would like to discuss more on this, feel free to PM me.
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I'm sorry if it came across the wrong way. I have just seen post which are direct advertising of networks such as the recent thread which listed 4 good networks and 4 bad networks. From my review of his comment he was simply looking to offer advice privately. I think that is more than suitable for a channel of the caliber mentioned. Does that clarify?
 
Austin at Omnia said:
I'm sorry if it came across the wrong way. I have just seen post which are direct advertising of networks such as the recent thread which listed 4 good networks and 4 bad networks. From my review of his comment he was simply looking to offer advice privately. I think that is more than suitable for a channel of the caliber mentioned. Does that clarify?
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Like I said, PM me if you wish to talk about the matter. Thank you for your patience.
 
I'll defend him too then.

You guys sure got heavy handed after the Fullscreen sponsorship. There isn't any recruiting going on in this thread, just Flammy trying to be helpful and pass along information for what a good sized channel should demand from networks who try to partner him. He's done it in other threads as well, trying to help people out who don't know any better. If the desire is to scare that kind of knowledge away, then so be it but it may be best to adjust the rules to make this forum Adsense discussion only then.
 
Reina said:
Like I said guys, DON'T recruit for networks. It's against the rules Flammy even if you're doing it through PM. Please don't do this again.
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I don't recruit via PM. I prefer to not share some revenue information publicly.

Additionally, Austin is one of the few voices here who shares his expertise. 95-99% of posts in this monetization section are filled with misinformation or blantantly wrong information.
 
Well thanks for the advice nonetheless, this whole partner thing is causing me a great deal of stress, I'm a data driven guy and there's way too many unknowns in this very fuzzy equation. I need a flow chart I think or a graph that plots network vs share threshold/
 
Scott Manley said:
Well thanks for the advice nonetheless, this whole partner thing is causing me a great deal of stress, I'm a data driven guy and there's way too many unknowns in this very fuzzy equation. I need a flow chart I think or a graph that plots network vs share threshold/
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That is exactly what I did - massive spreadsheet.

Too little data for actual number chugging as I'd prefer, however - channels are missing too many of the numbers. Here are the critical points:

* CPM (only network knows this for sure)
* Monetization % (only you know this for sure)
* Views
* Revenue share

Other important factors:
* contract length
* Ad Sales team 'effectiveness' (CPM, volume, % of ads shown that are monetized, etc)
* What they will invest in your channel (if any, should be explict in contract)
* How often/when/how much support is avalible - Timezone, working hours, email/skype/etc, graphic design support, etc
* opportunities to change contract
* opportunities to improve network share if channel continues to grow (Can you improve your offer if you renew when larger? It might make sense to wait rather than signing now depending on your growth)

There are a few others that are less important I'm probably not thinking of at the moment
 
Is there any networks that are particularly worth paying attention to, or avoiding, actually I think I pretty much have the ones to avoid figured out -
TGN has been serving ads which are 13 minute promotional films for industrial parts washers in their quest for CPM.
Several others can't seem to communicate outside of form letters.
And some are clearly just subnetworks of others (some are even dishonest about this fact).
I've read the bad press about maker and Machinima.
Fullscreen I talked to, ultimately I wasn't sure I'd benefit.
Forela Digital - seem to be everywhere in the background.
Collective? Anyone have any comments?
Seriously, this thing is messing with my sleep.
 
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