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Sure, here you go:
reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/4dlm3t/whats_up_with_the_weird_spiderman_videos_new_get/
Superheroes IRL (in real life) are the new get rich-quick scheme on Youtube ?
- Thread starter TimothyParker
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Thanks a lot.
wasabiroots
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Just a sudden thought. If they used adwords or other sort of advertising, would it work the same way like view botting but legal? Or its just impossible to get that many views from adwords etc?
I really don't think adwords helps much anymore like it used to. This time last year I could run 5 cent ads on my videos and get a big spike in views when they launched then shut off the ad and wait a few hours and do it again. Now google seems to have more control and only let's me get a few views from even more money. I haven't bothered with adwords in 6 months or so since they changed it. Toy Monster is making enough money that they could spend thousands a day on adwords though so it might be possible with a large budget.
TimothyParker
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1. First of all, NOBODY responded to my 3 questions from before (page 2) !
2. It seems that Toy Monster bullied Zachzy Games into making his videos unlisted and possibly remove them in the future: "I haven't been given enough views to hurt the brand, and I would prefer to work this out privately." (From Zachzy video comment, speaking with Toy Monster). I'm not 100% convinced but it looks like Toy Monster threaten Zachzy in some way.
3. It seems that this guys have no shame ! They have been caught red-handed and now they're trying to make us stop talking about their shady business ! At this point I think only YouTubers like H3H3 or GradeAUnderA are the ones that can raise awareness in this case.
2. It seems that Toy Monster bullied Zachzy Games into making his videos unlisted and possibly remove them in the future: "I haven't been given enough views to hurt the brand, and I would prefer to work this out privately." (From Zachzy video comment, speaking with Toy Monster). I'm not 100% convinced but it looks like Toy Monster threaten Zachzy in some way.
3. It seems that this guys have no shame ! They have been caught red-handed and now they're trying to make us stop talking about their shady business ! At this point I think only YouTubers like H3H3 or GradeAUnderA are the ones that can raise awareness in this case.
chottom
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YouTube is Google, Google is Internet. I do not believe massive bot activity can be undetected by Google. The vast majority of these fake views (I think) come from shady websites and aps using scripts/programs/bots to scoop the most popular videos from YT. The more popular you are in terms of rapidly growing traffic - the more fake views you will generate.
So yes these are bots but slightly different one.
PS. I also didn't believe how powerful are kids on YT but I saw it with my own eyes. They rule supreme.
BTW this all is an algorithmic artefact - the very "childification" of YT - but this is another topic.[DOUBLEPOST=1460345794,1460345550][/DOUBLEPOST]
Sorry I have no article source apart from our analytics data.
I just compare traffic from movies for small kids and the one for more mature audience. They are simply incomparable.[DOUBLEPOST=1460346145][/DOUBLEPOST]
Basically we decided not to do to other parents kids what we do not want them to do to our kids - viral but low quality debilitating/zombifying videos.
We left some of our very first videos for small kids - but than we didn't yet know how YT works and also they have some English in them so we can claim that they are somewhat educational for small Japanese kids (some of them are still quite popular in Japan)!
TimothyParker
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Why do you, and others like you avoid my questions ? EXPLAIN THIS and I will believe you:
1. Animated Surprise Eggs TV (paste after yt URL: /channel/UC1C0x6WPqAavZoja1Qga-uw/videos ) was doing animated videos for toddlers and had gain 237k subscribers and 220M views over the last year. But now they started to do Spiderman, Elsa ... videos and they have JUST a few thousand views on those.
Keep in mind what I said about Animated Surprise Eggs TV latest videos, how do you explain that a 3 weeks old channel SuperheroesPictures (paste after yt URL: /channel/UCHFFht_69CvIWDMnJoocrJQ/about) can start from 0 to 70M views in a matter of days, and a year old channel with 200k subs that tries to do the same thing doesn't get at least 1M views ?
2. How can the same channel SuperheroesPictures created 3 weeks ago, with only 140k subscribers (paste this on socialblade: UCHFFht_69CvIWDMnJoocrJQ) have a higher view count, in the last days than Rihanna (paste this on socialblade: rihannavevo), a channel with +20M subscribers ?
And remember Rihanna is in top 5 most watch YouTubers!
3. Zachzy Games tries to explain this scheme very good in his latest video: /watch?v=Xj33gZDObOo (paste in yt url) "The Case Against Toy Monster"
If you watched the video or not tell me how can Toy Monster lose twice the subscribers and views of what pewdiepie losses when YouTube does their adjustments ?
Because Toy Monster allegedly threaten Zachzy Game, he made those videos unlisted, but you still can find then if you search on Reddit.
I give you facts ! I expect you should give the same !!
wasabiroots
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You do that, but others sold their souls to the youtube devil by pumping out bad/low moral videos for money while saying its for kids and educational.
Sadly, those kinds are the ones that gain attention the fastest because of tricks.
Scapestrato
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Dude, chill out!
Reading your posts it seems you have exposed an illegal traffic of kid slaves or something
Here comes the answers you want.
1) You actually answered already your own question. They are not getting much views on the Superheroes videos (till now) because YT algo knows that their channel was about something else, similar niche but different content. If they keep doing Superheroes IRL videos for a while, they'll eventually find their breakthrough and I guarantee you the big views will start flowing again.
How do I know this? I have a nursery rhyme channel and I decided to diversify the content starting doing toy stories stop motion videos, and I noticed that despite using similar keywords to my nursery rhyme videos, the views I received were a tiny fraction of what the nursery rhyme videos received. I decided to scrap the plan and open an entirely new channel, much safer approach in my opinion.
Not to mention you can promote the video on the new channel using the annotations from your established channel, which is exactly what happened with the SuperHeroPictures Channel (they drove humoungous traffic from HeroesIRL channel).
2) Just answered above
3) Can't watch the video, but ToyMonster is completely legit, it is made by the same Canadian guys behind adollstory channel and if you ask me they are some of the best quality channel in this niche (of course if you watch their videos with adult eyes it seems utter sh*t, but so are Teletubbies and more in general stuff aimed to children if you can't put yourself from a child perspective)[DOUBLEPOST=1460391126,1460390948][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh, I also forgot to add that we are in 2016 and not 2010 anymore, it's impossible to pull off bot stunts in the range of HUNDRED OF MILLIONS views without YT noticing and shutting down the channel for good.[DOUBLEPOST=1460392116][/DOUBLEPOST]Ok I was able to watch the video by Zachzy, I actually stopped at half of it as the guy is clearly clueless when it comes to kids niche in YT (no disrespect intended). He goes on ranting on the comment/like ratio being shady, when in reality it's exacty like that on any video aimed to young children and you can check by yourself going on any big and legit kids channel (and it has been mentioned already on this forum, too)
No wonder he had put the video as unlisted, there was ground for legal actions there as he was claiming ToyMonster is gaming Youtube with no concrete proof supporting his theory.
wasabiroots
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OMG~ the epitome of happy people dancing/singing, colourful stuff around, people laughing, exaggerated acting with slapstick humor inserted >.<" its so bad haha
Also, only those with children around them would know how crazy kids watch youtube if they are given free reign of an ipad/tablet (I have a nephew...I've seen s**t). Click, click, click, watch, click, click, click, oh something new, click, click, laugh, click, click, click, dance... <- all of that could happen in less than 5 minutes(that doesn't include when they get bored and leave the video running in the background while they play their toys or when they accidentally leave gibberish comments or accidentally subscribing).
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