Copyright Claims Under YouTube Red

WilliamRayWalters said:
And holy crap, I just noticed that there is a dropdown where you can choose songs that are 'eligible for revenue share' or not eligible. Well it's about time. I wonder how long that has been there.
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It's been there for as long as I've been Youtubing I think. Maybe even before that. I remember when I was on the Casual Mode podcast, we used a lot of their songs that were eligible for revenue share, it was just under a different name.
 
offbeatbryce said:
What are you talking about? The emails said "You don't need a license to upload our music. YouTube pays the license on your behalf"
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I did not say anything about a license payment directly from the end user being required. In every case, the user needs permission for the use of copyrighted content. Whether that permission is verbal, written, purchased license first party, purchased license third party does not matter. Each of those is permission of some kind. YouTube pays for the license and as a result grants permission to use the material to people on the platform.
 
Harpuia said:
It's been there for as long as I've been Youtubing I think. Maybe even before that. I remember when I was on the Casual Mode podcast, we used a lot of their songs that were eligible for revenue share, it was just under a different name.
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Well, how long have you been youtubing? We've had entire discussion threads about this subject and the need for a complete list of songs that were eligible for revenue sharing (for cover songs). They only started offering the ability to share revenue with the copyright owner for various songs over the past couple years. Prior to this 'revenue sharing eligible' list you had to post a cover and a link would (hopefully) appear in the video manager prompting you to monetize the cover and share revenue with the copyright holder. Prior to that there was no easy or automatic way to get revenue from cover songs through Youtube.
 
offbeatbryce said:
The revenue sharing seems to be only for cover songs. I used a sound recording of a song that says eligible for revenue sharing but I don't get the option.

WATH has way more songs you can monetize though. The YouTube Ad Supported music section doesn't have as much songs as WATH do for revenue sharing. WATH is possibly getting sound recordings soon as well.

WATH also says right on their network that if they don't have a song listed to upload it anyway and YouTube will use their licensing to take care of it.
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I was just using Youtube's service as an example that people were familiar with.
 
Tarmack said:
I did not say anything about a license payment directly from the end user being required. In every case, the user needs permission for the use of copyrighted content. Whether that permission is verbal, written, purchased license first party, purchased license third party does not matter. Each of those is permission of some kind. YouTube pays for the license and as a result grants permission to use the material to people on the platform.
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That seems to be part where I am confused. When I email Sony for example they say "Upload anything as you have our permission and YouTube will take care of it." So it seems from the email discussions I don't need permission on a song by song basis.[DOUBLEPOST=1447387656,1447387397][/DOUBLEPOST]
WilliamRayWalters said:
I was just using Youtube's service as an example that people were familiar with.
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I see what you were saying. I would rather go with We Are The Hits if I am going to want to monetize my covers because of the fact the list on YouTube I mentioned has songs you can't share in revenue with that are on WATH. The Billboard hot 100 songs only have 5 songs listed on YouTube for Revenue Sharing and that's not even the major artists. WATH has Adele's new song etc.

I think for using sound recordings it's a risk because of the fact the policy can change like it says so on the site.
 
offbeatbryce said:
Just spoke with WATH who says they are getting sound recordings to be licensed and you can share in revenue. So people who join their network can do lip sync videos etc.
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That would be a game changer, and maybe not in a good way. If they do somehow pull that off, and the actual recordings of artists' songs can have their revenue shared can you imagine the spammy mass uploading that might occur? Will it be only lip sync videos allowed? What about using recordings in the background of game videos? I'm not sure if they will be able to police that situation very well. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
 
WilliamRayWalters said:
That would be a game changer, and maybe not in a good way. If they do somehow pull that off, and the actual recordings of artists' songs can have their revenue shared can you imagine the spammy mass uploading that might occur? Will it be only lip sync videos allowed? What about using recordings in the background of game videos? I'm not sure if they will be able to police that situation very well. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
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It would be the same way their covers work. You have to upload your video to WATH server first and it pushes it to YouTube or WATH finds songs by artists they are working with and claim them and license them.
 
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