$8 a Month for Ad Free Youtube

Paleo said:
Still, Netflix is huge. They've been able to create a lot of original shows due to their success. They have over 50 million members so they're obviously getting a LOT of money to make those. If youtube could capture the same kind of membership base as Netflix then they'll be able to pay their creators a share of the revenue. However, it seems like there needs to be more of an incentive to buy into it. Like having some of the shows and movies available on youtube free to watch since Netflix doesn't have everything available to stream.
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THAT is what concerns me. If the ad-based model was viable this wouldn't be happening, but I think enough people are adblocking that YT is going to gradually work in the pay model, and start blocking off certain features and channels behind a paywall.

I mean, I'll pay happily because I want to support the site, but I know it won't be a universal attitude and if it's involving a separately tiered system it might cause issues.
 
SomeGuyDude said:
I'd definitely be curious to see what the pay model is for channels when people pay. Like I said, I'm willing to bet it turns into a Spotify-like "per stream" model. You pay and then it's your views of the CONTENT that matter since the ads are gone.
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Payment for creators in the ad free model is based on watch time, not views.
 
What interests me is it says "starting at $8 a month." so the $8 a month won't even be the best truly be ad free you have to pay like $40 a month I'm guessing.
 
I feel this will hurt a lot of youtubers incomes as it will encourage people who dont use adblock to use it :/
 
Adam Quigley said:
I feel this will hurt a lot of youtubers incomes as it will encourage people who dont use adblock to use it :/
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...how does that work? If they're not using Adblock NOW, why would the existence of an option subscription model cause them to?

And hey, you know what happens if they do? YT will start either changing how the ads work so they're unblockable (think Pandora), or (also possible) they'll start limiting the free service by stopping people from watching in HD or only allowing them to watch so many videos before they're FORCED to watch full ads.

No one "wins" with adblock. Not in the long term. Content providers lose income and consumers force the providers to change how it's done in order to make up for the lost revenue.[DOUBLEPOST=1424537639,1424537385][/DOUBLEPOST]BTW. Guys.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000355324

That's the source everyone's using. I'm not even sure it's correctly reporting it because the "source" is a CNBC reporter saying a YT exec is talking about "fine-tuning" their subscription model, but THAT seems to be in reference to their MUSIC service. So I don't know WHAT's going on.
 
SomeGuyDude said:
...how does that work? If they're not using Adblock NOW, why would the existence of an option subscription model cause them to?

And hey, you know what happens if they do? YT will start either changing how the ads work so they're unblockable (think Pandora), or (also possible) they'll start limiting the free service by stopping people from watching in HD or only allowing them to watch so many videos before they're FORCED to watch full ads.

No one "wins" with adblock. Not in the long term. Content providers lose income and consumers force the providers to change how it's done in order to make up for the lost revenue.[DOUBLEPOST=1424537639,1424537385][/DOUBLEPOST]BTW. Guys.



That's the source everyone's using. I'm not even sure it's correctly reporting it because the "source" is a CNBC reporter saying a YT exec is talking about "fine-tuning" their subscription model, but THAT seems to be in reference to their MUSIC service. So I don't know WHAT's going on.
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It could cause them to use it because it brings attention to the fact you CAN block ads, and instead of paying for it they will download adblock, I do see your point of view though :)
 
Adam Quigley said:
It could cause them to use it because it brings attention to the fact you CAN block ads, and instead of paying for it they will download adblock, I do see your point of view though :)
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I hadn't even considered that, yikes. I think you're right. :/

I could also imagine a lot of people doing it in "protest" like "screw YouTube! Greedy MF'ers, I'll BLOCK the ads!"
 
SomeGuyDude said:
I hadn't even considered that, yikes. I think you're right. :/

I could also imagine a lot of people doing it in "protest" like "screw YouTube! Greedy MF'ers, I'll BLOCK the ads!"
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Yeah I can definitely see it cause some sort of protest against it, thus really hurting all YouTuber incomes badly :/
 
Some big tech YouTubers will probably go the subscription route, who have the money and the right attitude about it (leading by example).
All the smaller ones will definitely go the adblock route.
 
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