YouTube MCN Networks, nothing but parasites?

[carlylespicks]

Thanks for your input. My personal experience with that has been after doing about 1200 videos, I've only had 2 real copyright issues:

1: Bogus claim from scammer
2: Bogus claim from youtube robots

In the grand scheme of things, these 2 issues are but a whisper. Certainly would not justify THOUSANDS in loses from the MCN cut. The money I'd give to MCN would be 10 times what I lost of one of those claims. So spend $10 to save $1. Right.

Networks help with copyrights. Only thing useful. Oh and they only help you if your actually of significant size.

[DOUBLEPOST=1416859736,1416859500][/DOUBLEPOST]I'm sorry but I don't think most YouTubers realize they are signing up for a big pay cut with no value coming back. I've even heard from big youtuber 200k subs+ who are p****d. They got suckered in and paid hard. Do you really think networks would survive if most people knew they were useless? Nothing you mentioned is something you can't already get for free.

Well, there are people that do know what they're getting into when joining a Network. Being part of a community is bigger than taking a little cut in pay. The main aspect of Networks are to make their content creators feel as if they are in an exclusive club, and offer them things like royalty free music libraries, graphic templates, etc. If you want to change something. Stop all these "young" YouTuber's aspiring to be the next PewDiePie, and help with creatively, inspire them. If you want them to look to you for guidance, do you really want them to just see you lashing out at Networks that you aren't even with?[DOUBLEPOST=1416859342,1416859312][/DOUBLEPOST]

That information is completely false, they do not help you with copyright.

 

[BookOfKen]

Thanks for your input. My personal experience with that has been after doing about 1200 videos, I've only had 2 real copyright issues:

1: Bogus claim from scammer
2: Bogus claim from youtube robots

In the grand scheme of things, these 2 issues are but a whisper. Certainly would not justify THOUSANDS in loses from the MCN cut. The money I'd give to MCN would be 10 times what I lost of one of those claims. So spend $10 to save $1. Right.

Bogus claims are what your trying to stop... It's worth it if your big. What if someone was able to take down your channel and you had 300k subs but no network... You wouldn't be able to get your channel back up for like a month lol

 

[carlylespicks]

I'm concerned about the well being of my fell man. Just because I'm doing well is not enough. I want others to succeed also and I'm sick of all the parasites. They are just like the pyramid scammers who prey on the poor. How many millionaires making money off the poor does it take before you care also?

Sorry again, it just seemed like you were bashing a Network you were in. Should be no reason for you to worry then!

 

[LyfeWithDragons]

Thanks for your input. My personal experience with that has been after doing about 1200 videos, I've only had 2 real copyright issues:

1: Bogus claim from scammer
2: Bogus claim from youtube robots

In the grand scheme of things, these 2 issues are but a whisper. Certainly would not justify THOUSANDS in loses from the MCN cut. The money I'd give to MCN would be 10 times what I lost of one of those claims. So spend $10 to save $1. Right.

[DOUBLEPOST=1416859736,1416859500][/DOUBLEPOST]I'm sorry but I don't think most YouTubers realize they are signing up for a big pay cut with no value coming back. I've even heard from big youtuber 200k subs+ who are p****d. They got suckered in and paid hard. Do you really think networks would survive if most people knew they were useless? Nothing you mentioned is something you can't already get for free.

I didn't say most, I just said there are those that actually do know what they are getting into. Anyway, regardless of that, you sound a lot like this YouTuber named OutbackZack, who some time go went on this huge rampage about Networks, and the "necessary" evil they were becoming. Claims such as "We help with copyright." or "Join us, and we'll make you famous." are, of course, outright lies. The one I'm in, I know the people personally that made it, and what exactly the Network is all about. Be positive as a role model is that's what you're trying to be. You seem to want others to take a page from your book, and be "against" Networks. When in reality, you should encourage them to tread carefully when joining, and make sure they save themselves from getting scammed, or whatever.

You seem to have a really healthy channel, and that's amazing. Keep up the good work!

 

[carlylespicks]

If they made things easier then there would not be so many YouTubers taking their networks to court, trying to get out of their contracts. Again, if there is any value at all you should be able to SEE IT. If you could help make running my channel easier, I guarantee you it will show on my graphs. The lame MCN cop out is "Well, we can't promise you gonna do what is required to succeed". Please. What loser is gonna take a pay cut and then be lazy and let channel sink. We don't make much money from our channels (and I say that with almost 1 million views in last 30 days), so I don't see many of the hard working YouTubers that grow 5000-10000 subs in a year, slacking off once they join a network. More often than not, the graphs should show the benifits.

Networks are there to make tasks easier, for the most part they will not do them.

It's like buying eggs from a shop rather than keeping chickens, but you still need to fry them in the end

 

[LyfeWithDragons]

Bogus claims are what your trying to stop... It's worth it if your big. What if someone was able to take down your channel and you had 300k subs but no network... You wouldn't be able to get your channel back up for like a month lol

Where do you get your information?

 

[carlylespicks]

Bogus claims are what your trying to stop... It's worth it if your big. What if someone was able to take down your channel and you had 300k subs but no network... You wouldn't be able to get your channel back up for like a month lol

As I said before. MCNs are for big channels only. Small guys are just money making pawns for them to pimp out. The real money is in the big channels, so that is who they help.

 

[LyfeWithDragons]

Oh, here is the video of OutbackZack, and his rant.

 

[BookOfKen]

Where do you get your information?

Look at my channel, and you'll know why I know this information. The whole pranking community knows this. Happens all the time, tons of channels get taken down from others.

As I said before. MCNs are for big channels only. Small guys are just money making pawns for them to pimp out. The real money is in the big channels, so that is who they help.

They barely make anything off the people who make a few dollars a month lol. And of course they can't help you barely any if your giving them this small of an amount from a paycheck, they would be working basically for free. When your small, you should arbitrarily know this, that your paying to use their forum, and small connections you build from that.

 

[carlylespicks]

When you see massive networks like Fullscrewed signing up people with 300 subs, they make it real obvious. Can you imagine ANY TV network signing up a person an audience of $200?

They barely make anything off the people who make a few dollars a month lol. And of course they can't help you barely any if your giving them this small of an amount from a paycheck, they would be working basically for free. When your small, you should arbitrarily know this, that your paying to use their forum, and small connections you build from that.