Youtube deleting videos?

[WilliamRayWalters]

You are correct and I was imprecise as I was only referring to the tag violation thingy.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, it stands to reason that if they can have an algorithm scan for one type of TOS violation that they would do it for another. I think you're right that they aren't automatically deleting, but I think it's possible that they are auto flagging.

Either that or they decided to more strictly enforce their current spam guidelines and are acting on past flaggings. Given the fact that only one flagging usually doesn't prompt a review by a human, that would be my guess since all of this is happening very recently. Who knows.

 

[XXLRay]

A single flag absolutely already causes a human review.

 

[Furry Gurus]

This has been going on for a while now. Just don't try to cheat the system and you will be fine. According to the shared e-mail they consider this a warning. You are free to re-upload the video but lose the views, you only get a strike if you do it again. I used to have some videos with some metadata in a grey area, but changed it all when I heard this!

 

[WilliamRayWalters]

A single flag absolutely already causes a human review.

I respect your opinion but I 100% disagree with you. This may have been the case a couple years ago when the amount of video being uploaded each day was a little more manageable, but not now. Take a look at this. This is from the help section of Youtube from a couple years ago when users were uploading 100 hours worth of video per minute:

Notice the part 'The video will then be reviewed by our staff'. Now take a look at the same section from this page - https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802027?hl=en

Notice how careful they were not to say that each flag would be reviewed? It's because 300 hours of video are uploaded to Youtube per minute and there simply isn't enough manpower to review every new flag. To be honest, even when they had that first text in the help section I didn't buy it...not based on things people have said to me.[DOUBLEPOST=1438248183,1438248065][/DOUBLEPOST]Now, for certain types of flaggings I would say there is a higher possibility of one flag triggering a review (abuse, for example)...but not for spam certainly.

 

[XXLRay]

I flagged videos for Spam that had no views despite mine and they got removed. Mass flagging taking down videos is a myth. If you don't believe me that's of course your right. You choose whom you trust.

 

[WilliamRayWalters]

If you don't believe me that's of course your right. You choose whom you trust.

You have more reason to believe me than I have to believe you. I've been doing this longer than you, I have had more contact with Youtube personnel than you have, I've had extended discussions with many Youtube partners about this very subject over the years ...partners who are also top contributors who speak to Google employees on a regular basis. The consensus is that Youtube videos only see human eyes when absolutely necessary. I've linked and screen capped the changes to the help section as well.

You've mentioned that you flagged a video once. So...if that's what your entire basis is for your opinion then you're right...I disagree with that. I'm positive that I'm right about this. You don't have to believe me...it doesn't matter to me at all. I just don't want the others in the forum being misinformed.

And I wasn't saying anything about mass flagging (leading to a video getting automatically taken down) ...i don't know where you got that from. False mass flagging was an issue for a brief period of time early on but Youtube fixed that pretty quickly. They did the same with invalid clicks (click bombing) issue. Fixed it relatively quickly.

 

[XXLRay]

I've been doing this longer than you, I have had more contact with Youtube personnel than you have, I've had extended discussions with many Youtube partners about this very subject over the years ...

From what do you know??? I am on YouTube since 2006 if that matters.

partners who are also top contributors who speak to Google employees on a regular basis.

Well I personally am TC in the English YouTube help forums as well as in the YouTube Creator help forums and I am moderator of the official YouTube Creator G+ community ...
Who has the biggest genitals now? *roles eyes*

You've mentioned that you flagged a video once.

That's not what I wrote.

So...if that's what your entire basis is for your opinion

Nope, it isn't.

I just don't want the others in the forum being misinformed

Same for me.

And I wasn't saying anything about mass flagging (leading to a video getting automatically taken down) ...i don't know where you got that from.

I read it between the lines. Sorry if I was wrong there.

 

[WilliamRayWalters]

If you are telling the truth about all of that then it is mind boggling that you do not know what I know. Of course, what Google employees share with top contributors nowadays might be different than what they shared back then. Either that or the case we were discussing simply warranted it more. I would get more specific and even drop a name but things they have told me with regard to this exact issue are likely subject to their NDA. I will get a little specific though. These are things that came up a couple years ago when a Youtube-owned channel affirmed ownership of one of my videos after it was content id'd. It was a big deal (I stood to lose 20 thousand /year over it ) and I had to threaten legal action before several top contributors and 2 google employees stepped in to help me. One TC told me I have to wait until 2016 for him to tell me exactly what happened (NDA). During discussions with both the TCs and one Google employee (through email and a year later through pm at my own now - defunct Youtube partner forum website called "abetterpartnerforum... (it wasn't lol) ) is when the subject of human interaction with flagged videos came up (it was a similar subject to the issue I had in which my videos monetization was transferred to the youtube-owned channel without one Youtube employee ever reviewing the content ID). That is when it was revealed to me, and without getting specific, that whether it is a content ID appeal, an age restriction, or a flagging, videos get reviewed with human eyes less often than anyone is led to believe. The partner forum thread of that whole content ID fiasco is still online I think.

Listen...i don't want to argue further about this. We're clearly not going to change each other's minds so let's just agree to disagree.

 

[Sabrina]

Did any of those people whose videos got deleted make their description+tags public afterwards? We don't know anything, they could be lying or not being aware of the rule they broke (like tagging other YouTubers, as so many do).

 

[XXLRay]

If you are telling the truth about all of that then it is mind boggling that you do not know what I know.

I have no means to lie about it and it can easily be checked.

but things they have told me with regard to this exact issue are likely subject to their NDA.

It's likely the same NDA that prevents me from telling everything.

whether it is a content ID appeal, an age restriction, or a flagging, videos get reviewed with human eyes less often than anyone is led to believe.

From all I know (and may tell) content ID is indeed not reviewed by YouTube staff at all. It's simply a messaging system that forwards notifications.
When it comes to rule violations to the best of my knowledge all these flags are reviewed but I will check back.

Listen...i don't want to argue further about this. We're clearly not going to change each other's minds so let's just agree to disagree.

Good idea. I think we made at least clear that YouTube is shady about the practice with flags