wow.. another youtube drama.

Sigh. Not again. And now it hits the gay YouTube community. Like gay men need to be thought of as sexual predators--thanks for dialing back the clock, Craig. It's interesting how similar these stories are to all the others so far, from young victims to requires for pictures to alcohol to total lack of self-awareness on the abuser's part. I have always said that the world doesn't divide between gay and straight but men and women. Sadly, my point has been proven.
 
First of all, why would someone rape someone...
Secondly if you have a following, why would you do something as extreme as this when it would ruin your image.
Lastly if you do have a following chances are you could find someone to actually like you so you wouldn't need to do this.

I'll never understand =X
 
I very much agree with this comment on the response video of Craig:
"Was that Tate guy not able to slap you in the face and just stand up and leave if he didn't want it? Was he afraid you would kill him or something? Why would he stay the night and sleep next to the person who raped him and let it happen a second time in the morning? Why laying there and getting ******, then keep chatting and having fun like nothing happened and then suddenly decide to make a video and say he was raped? Does that make sense to anyone?"
 
David Stoll said:
Sigh. Not again. And now it hits the gay YouTube community. Like gay men need to be thought of as sexual predators--thanks for dialing back the clock, Craig. It's interesting how similar these stories are to all the others so far, from young victims to requires for pictures to alcohol to total lack of self-awareness on the abuser's part. I have always said that the world doesn't divide between gay and straight but men and women. Sadly, my point has been proven.
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Gay or straight it's important they come forward. I'm not saying Craig did or he didn't because I don't know enough but I think the people making videos are showing that consent is consent regardless of gender or sexual orientation.
 
David Stoll said:
Sigh. Not again. And now it hits the gay YouTube community. Like gay men need to be thought of as sexual predators--thanks for dialing back the clock, Craig. It's interesting how similar these stories are to all the others so far, from young victims to requires for pictures to alcohol to total lack of self-awareness on the abuser's part. I have always said that the world doesn't divide between gay and straight but men and women. Sadly, my point has been proven.
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Women can be just as evil trust me.
 
nad said:
I very much agree with this comment on the response video of Craig:
"Was that Tate guy not able to slap you in the face and just stand up and leave if he didn't want it? Was he afraid you would kill him or something? Why would he stay the night and sleep next to the person who raped him and let it happen a second time in the morning? Why laying there and getting ******, then keep chatting and having fun like nothing happened and then suddenly decide to make a video and say he was raped? Does that make sense to anyone?"
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You know, I had a similar thought, but then I asked myself whether I would have the same thought if the rape were of a woman. The answer is no--the powerlessness can make someone totally freeze (as terrifying explained in the Sam Pepper accusation video). While I would hope that I would act if someone tried to force me to have sex, I can't honestly say I would have the faculties in that moment of shock. So, I decided that what you are saying (and what I thought) might be a double-standard. Also, I am told that same sex rape is a real thing and just as traumatizing. I think it's just hard to imagine or empathize with as a guy.[DOUBLEPOST=1415655636,1415655573][/DOUBLEPOST]
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Women can be just as evil trust me.
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Yes, but women combine all their evil in to their teen years. (j.k. don't hate on me please.)
 
nad said:
I very much agree with this comment on the response video of Craig:
"Was that Tate guy not able to slap you in the face and just stand up and leave if he didn't want it? Was he afraid you would kill him or something? Why would he stay the night and sleep next to the person who raped him and let it happen a second time in the morning? Why laying there and getting ******, then keep chatting and having fun like nothing happened and then suddenly decide to make a video and say he was raped? Does that make sense to anyone?"
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I know its not you that wrote the comment but I actually found this is quite upsetting. People who're raped often describe it like an out of body experience because they struggle to believe that it is really happening; especially if its someone they trust. At times the person may question what they experienced and wonder whether they (the victim) are in the wrong (e.g. unconscious signs they were giving off). Sometimes it takes a lot of time to accept what has happened to you and realise that what happened isn't right. I don't mean to lecture but this is something I have a strong opinion on.
 
David Stoll said:
You know, I had a similar thought, but then I asked myself whether I would have the same thought if the rape were of a woman. The answer is no--the powerlessness can make someone totally freeze (as terrifying explained in the Sam Pepper accusation video). While I would hope that I would act if someone tried to force me to have sex, I can't honestly say I would have the faculties in that moment of shock. So, I decided that what you are saying (and what I thought) might be a double-standard. Also, I am told that same sex rape is a real thing and just as traumatizing. I think it's just hard to imagine or empathize with as a guy.[DOUBLEPOST=1415655636,1415655573][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yes, but women combine all their evil in to their teen years. (j.k. don't hate on me please.)
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I agree with this. When you get into extreme situations which you have never been in before, your body goes into a sort of like auto pilot mode. You don't really snap out of it untill everything is over.

The texts he replied to craig with were a bit odd though. I can't really get my head around someone telling a person that they are making a video about them being abused by said person. Then straight after asking that person for nudes :l
 
I do think the whole thing with Tate is kind of weird. But it isn't just Tate there are other people claiming Craig raped them too. So I don't know what to think.
 
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