When People Cheat Subscribers

I wonder what would happen if YT was a pay to win social network.

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BarbMollyTV said:
I have learned pretty early on not to really care/concern myself much with other people's decisions which have no impact on myself, so with that being said it doesn't really move me either way. With that being said in my honest opinion it does seem a little desperate or as if there may be a self-confidence issue that they feel so desperate to just meet this imaginary quota in their head rather then just letting people sub, follow, etc naturally. Personally I wouldn't be able to feel content knowing that i'm buying followers/subscribers but that's just me.
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This should be the default response when this subject gets mentioned on a monthly basis.
 
EmilyJM said:
There was this girl I know who went around popular videos asking in the comments for 'YouTube Friends' which basically means sub for sub and her sub count went up by over a 100 and I was so close to calling her out for it.
Sub4sub is awful and I don't think it does anyone any good...
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When you say " Youtube Friends " is does not necessary mean it is sub4sub it means they want to make to Youtube friends with other Youtubers and chat to eachother and meet up at big Youtube events like Summer In The City and may be collab in the future and that's i want to do (trying to) make Youtube friends with small Youtubers, chatting to them and meet up in the future.

But it seems you assume the girl you was talking out was just asking for Sub4sub but how can you be so sure she was asking for sub4sub instead she might of wanted to make Youtube friends.[DOUBLEPOST=1420218969,1420217282][/DOUBLEPOST]I agree Sub4Sub is complete garbage and i would never consider doing anything like Sub4Sub because it is just a NUMBER and all it brings you are dead/inactive subscribers

As most people said i think video views and interacting with my subscribers/comments is the most importent thing on Youtube! :)



Anyway i don't need Sub4Sub becuase i am getting video views and subscribers just by DM lots of people on Twitter telling them to check out my Youtube channel(or new video in another DM).

6 weeks ago i had 27/29 subscribers, and now i have 73 subscribers and getting a lot more video views since i started DM lots of people on Twitter 6 weeks ago. :)
 
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BillyVlogsTV said:
When you say " Youtube Friends " is does not necessary mean it is sub4sub it means they want to make to Youtube friends with other Youtubers and chat to eachother and meet up at big Youtube events like Summer In The City and may be collab in the future and that's i want to do (trying to) make Youtube friends with small Youtubers, chatting to them and meet up in the future.

But it seems you assume the girl you was talking out was just asking for Sub4sub but how can you be so sure she was asking for sub4sub instead she might of wanted to make Youtube friends.
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Everyone knows that asking on a popular YouTubers video for "friends" means subscribe to my channel, I'll sub back. If you want friends, you don't do it on someone elses video. Have you not seen them? Its glaringly obvious, so no I don't think I'm assuming in the slightest to be honest...
I'm not saying not to want friends on YouTube, but just not that way.
 
I ignore them

Untill they message me saying that they are near the same amount of subs as me which means I should collab with them.

Then I just reply with
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I tend not to pay attention to that. I know that YouTube is always working to keep things on even playing field. And at the end the day as long as you're growing your chin on the right way it does not matter what other people are doing. Besides fake subscribers will make you no money lol
 
AmberAndGolden said:
You can always tell one of these when they have a couple thousand, maybe more, subscribers and only a few hundred views per video!
I don't really mind it that much, Subscribers are just a number, its the 'views' and comments that really count because its a community!
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Hmm I wouldn't say always, I worked hard for my 2.7k and I don't get THAT many views anymore. (used to get 7k views per vid, now roughly 300-800) My mistake was expanding into new content when people we're really enjoying my old content. Also, the fact that I didn't understand how SEO worked when I started doing different things really hurt me as well. But I felt like I was stuck in my "niche" and wanted to show that I could do other things. It didn't really work too well for me. I don't regret it though as I'm still growing and it gave me perspective.

On topic though, it annoys me slightly when I see people who've done this, simply because I feel like these are the people who don't give a damn about their viewers. To those kinds of youtubers the viewer is just a number, and that's something I can't stand. I know that may not always be the case and I am a little biased as I did work for my small following, but yeah. that's my two cents.
 
I usually shrug it off because they're the 1s losing in the end. It's channels anywhere between 0-50k or more who still do it too.
 
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