When Adblock takes over

WilliamRayWalters said:
There are a lot more people, especially the older and younger demographics, that are not as savvy and are not aware that ad blockers even exist. A good portion of the rest might not trust ad blockers or get frustrated if they install it and it causes some kind of issue. The numbers people bandy around range from 10% to 20% of all internet users using adblocking software.

That's why it hasn't been a problem up until recently.


FB doesn't offer you that yet. There, I fixed that for you.

I am one of the relative few here who wholeheartedly believe that Facebook will develop a video platform (like they are planning), invite more and more of the bigger content producers and YT channel creators to share revenue, and eventually be a strong enough force to endanger Youtube's stranglehold on the video market. There will be growing pains along the way, just as there were with Youtube as they worked out some of their issues earlier on (content ID, monetization, false flagging, invalid click detection algorithms, etc) but I'll say by 2020 Facebook will at the very least be a major player, and possibly even being the market leaders by then.

Ultimately, as far as ad blockers are concerned, it doesn't matter if people are driven to FB. FB will have to have their own way to deal with those same ad blockers, although I am quite sure that there is a much lower percent of FB users using ad blockers simply due to the age demographic.
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FB can try, but in order to be at least at the same level as YT it would have to grow IMMENSELY really really FAST and YT would have to growing at the rate it is now. Plus, it would have to offer at least the same benefits to content creators. I haven´t seen any real effort in that direction until now.

YT is optimized for being a video website. FB is not. FB is optimized for being a social network. It would be very difficult for FB to do what they´re doing now and being a video platform at the same time. Generally, the big websites are very good at one thing, and that´s it.

Not saying it can´t happen. But FB has a A LOT of catch up to do in order to be even close to the same level of YT, and we would have to assume that YT would do absolutely nothing to make sure they keep being number 1. I mean, we´re talking about Google.
 
Krow said:
I mean, we´re talking about Google.
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Facebook is every bit as impressive a company as Google, in my opinion, and just as capable if not more capable of accomplishing something like this than Google is capable of preventing it from happening.

Facebook hasn't made a lot of mistakes...no big ones certainly. Google on the other hand (cough...google plus...cough). Well, we see what happened when it tried its hand at social media. It was a fiasco and now they're going to shut it down most likely.

Like I've mentioned on other threads, we all should be pulling for Facebook to do well in the video arena because it will only benefit current Youtube partners. Competition is good.
 
FB is going to do as well with "proper" video implementation as G+ did at being a social media site.
And really unless you're huge or make videos very "compatible" with FB, I see no reason to cheer for FB. I don't think most people are going to go crazy over a prospective 5% increase in revenue split (that will most likely not even occur) if they don't make much money anyway off their channel to begin with, and considering how FB chose to match YT payment in its plans rather than go for more, it's all the more doubtful.

What, am I supposed to keep on cheering dailymotion and vimeo as well because they are competition?

I'm not "cheering" on anything. :spin:
 
Uncivilized Elk said:
FB is going to do as well with "proper" video implementation as G+ did at being a social media site.
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Based on what? All Facebook has done is succeed. On the other hand, Google has proven that they know how to screw up big time, so it's not close to out of the question that they will allow Facebook to overtake them eventually.
Uncivilized Elk said:
And really unless you're huge or make videos very "compatible" with FB, I see no reason to cheer for FB. I don't think most people are going to go crazy over a prospective 5% increase in revenue split
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Competition isn't only about revenue...it's about companies pushing each other to be better and to serve their customers/users better. When that happens the users of either/both services benefit. Can revenue be positively affected? Sure...Youtube, which hasn't shown a profit ever by the way, will be much less likely to try to take a bigger cut of the revenue pie knowing that people will have Facebook as an alternative revenue stream. So yes, that's another reason to embrace the idea that Facebook might be real competition for Youtube. If Facebook does it correctly, there will be no need for people to make videos 'compatible' with Facebook. Facebook wants the same exact market that Youtube has currently, in addition to what they already have. They want to offer the same content, with a similarly good search functionality (which they are working on, apparently), and a functional revenue sharing system (which they have rolled out to a select few companies but are also continuing to work on). Facebook's video platform will eventually similar to Youtube, except for the fact that it will be much more geared toward sharing (like the site currently is) and will provide more exposure. As soon as rev share is rolled out to everyone, every YT creator will jump on the bandwagon...and why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't you want an extra revenue stream?
Uncivilized Elk said:
What, am I supposed to keep on cheering dailymotion and vimeo as well because they are competition?
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Well now you're just being argumentative. It was very clear from the start that those companies had no chance at being serious competitors to Youtube. Facebook is a whole different monster.

Like I said...there is no reason to have to choose one or the other, which is why everyone will begin uploading their content to FB as soon as they are invited to the revenue sharing program. Anyone would be foolish not to.
 
I wonder why nobody is complaining why you need a Facebook account to upload videos to Facebook like they were complaining about G+ ...
 
XXLRay said:
I wonder why nobody is complaining why you need a Facebook account to upload videos to Facebook like they were complaining about G+ ...
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Well, a better comparison would be if Facebook debuted its new video platform next year (for example) but had it as a separate section of the site that you had to sign up for (choose a FB video account name, etc), and mandated that current FB users must sign up with 'FB Video' in order to comment on any video on the site, even though they could comment on videos fine prior to that with their normal FB account. That would be a more similar comparison to what happened with Google plus and Youtube.
 
Can this not become another FB thread by the way? I just realized what we're doing.
Let's divert this back to AdBlock before it gets out of hand please.
 
As far as I know, there are ways around adblock 'cause certain sites yell at me until I turn it off to watch their stuff. I feel like YouTube needs to implement this and soon because its how at least some of their content creators get paid. Personally I set YouTube to an add okay site and encourage others to do the same but its not that effective
 
WilliamRayWalters said:
Based on what? All Facebook has done is succeed. On the other hand, Google has proven that they know how to screw up big time, so it's not close to out of the question that they will allow Facebook to overtake them eventually.
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I agree with him. And to be fair, FB hasn´t had as many projects as Google, as it? It hasn´t had as many opportunities to fail.

And i can tell you that i prefer YT as a video platform than FB as a social network. FB has way too many basic flaws that really bother me.

At the end of the day, it doesn´t matter wich one is more successful. FB will have to play catch up with YT, like it tried to play catch up with Google as a search engine and failed.

If you think you will see FB successully becoming the biggest social network and the biggest video platform at the same time, offering everything YT can offer to you, you might be disappointed.

Google also tried to compete with FB and failed. That happens because, when you already have a huge company established as the default solution for a certain need, it´s very difficult for another company to come in and just take over. It´s hard to make hundreds of millions of users migrate to another website, unless you´re offering something exceptionally superior. And i don´t see FB creating something exceptionally superior to YT. And i also don´t see it being able to integrate it well enough with its social network platform. Two completely different things working great together is something that we rarely see anywhere.
 
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