Should i upload late at night?

[Hazzador]

You'll find threads go all over the place here.



One genre is not one game. Genre is a category of games, such as horror, FPS, strategy, etc.



You asked for advice. That the advice wasn't what you wanted to hear shouldn't get you down. Did you only want encouragement?



This is where you get confusing. Just above you said you don't want to stick to one game and now you're saying you are.



Reality isn't always what you want it to be. Part of the benefit of these forums is getting reality checks.

I am having one main game but i am having others, that what i said before. I don't mind critisism, but u kind of said my channel is not going to suceed which wasn't necessary

 

[Jack Decker]

While I agree with paragraph 4 of your post I have to say your whole post entirely was very frustrating to read.

Not everything should be hugs and kisses. Reality checks are valuable too.

I understand your analysis of dissecting the popular YouTuber's choices in variety, because it seems that most of them today create these awful "variety" videos just to spew crappy content out into the world to stay relevant.

That is another bad reason why they do so.

It seems though that you have some personal "vendetta" with the more popular YouTube makers...

Hardly.

...and are taking it out on these new creators. They came to you seeking answers and guidance and instead of trying to positively provide them with the information they can use to better themselves, you came at them with brutal opinions.

I've been a marketer for over three decades. Sometimes the best thing I can give clients is a reality check and not hugs and kisses. Brantman19 asked my opinion about the issue ("What's your take on...") and I gave it.

The beauty of Youtube is that it's NOT television, we DON'T have the restrictions of having to stick to a script, or keep a cohesive story flowing, as creators we can do whatever the heck we want to do!

Sorry, I was trying to help them succeed and not baby them. It is a fantasy to think YouTube is different, that conventions of other forms of entertainment don't apply to it, that YouTube somehow can violate core marketing principles, and that you can do whatever you want and succeed. Yes, you can do whatever you want but if you want to succeed, there's actual ways that have been shown to work. I mean you do realize you just made that statement in a forum titled "Strategies and Technique Advice", right? And YouTube is very much like TV in its development stages. Read up on the history of TV and YouTube and you'll see a lot of parallels.

With that being said, you're correct in that it's very good to understand marketing if you're trying to make it far in the world of YouTube, but it's definitely not going to get you to the top.

I have never read or heard of a SINGLE successful YouTuber who ever said such a thing. Instead, I have read and heard of ones that work very hard to market their channels to YouTube, social media, and the general public. If you know of a successful YouTuber that just stumbled their way to success on YouTube, please tell me who they are. Seriously, I would really like to know.

YouTube is not about formula's and strategies, it's about being human and presenting your creations to the world.

Again, you're posting that statement in a forum titled "Strategies and Technique Advice". Every successful YouTuber who I have heard talk, read, or watched has ALWAYS talked about the formulas and strategies they've have used to get to the top. Frederator even put out a book titled "The 10 YouTube Commandments". Tim Schmoyer's "Video Creators" YouTube channel is all about what works and what doesn't.

Look at Pewdiepie, it wasn't business strategies that got him to the top.

Then you haven't researched PewDiePie much or listen to many interviews of him where he talks about how hard he works at making his channel a success, that he has worked out a strategy that has proven very successful for him (that so far he hasn't publicly revealed), and how others analyze what he's done and are trying to copy it.

Also...

And now you insult me when I encourage new YouTubers to read a SINGLE introductory book on marketing.[DOUBLEPOST=1443056059,1443055757][/DOUBLEPOST]

I don't mind critisism, but u kind of said my channel is not going to suceed which wasn't necessary

No, I didn't. Quote me. I did give advice about how it might be done better and why I think so. That is quite different than what you're accusing me of. That you read more into what I wrote than what is there ("u kind of said") is not my problem.

 

[JTMulcahy]

I almost didn't believe you when you said you were a "marketeer" until I got to the end of your post where you altered my comment in such a manipulative way so that you could make me appear to be an attacker.

I was not insulting you, I was pointing out the ironic blunder of you misspelling the word uneducated, while berating others for being uneducated.

I actually have researched Pewdiepie's success story. Pewdiepie works very hard on his videos, but HE is not the reason for his success. The reason for his success is due to YouTube's viewer retention setup and the fact that since he has multiple fan bases throughout the world, plus speaks English, YouTube promotes his videos more so than they would someone within a single country demographic. His success was not intentionally done by him promoting, you can study his success path all you want, but it's impossible to replicate because of it's serendipitous nature.

As for providing them with a reality check...I don't even understand what that's supposed to mean at this point because all they did was ask a question in regards to variety and you went on a rant about (*Best Bill Cosby impersonation*) "the tv shows and the American Idol (Which I believe you meant America's Got Talent? American Idol is almost the pure definition of unvarying.) and the puddin pops."

And finally no...you don't have to "coddle" them, or "hug and kiss them," but saying things like "As for 650 and 500 views being a lot, sorry, but those aren't." is not advice. That's literally going out of your way just to put someone down.

Definition of advice - guidance or recommendations concerning prudent future action, typically given by someone regarded as knowledgeable or authoritative.

 

[chottom]

Do not do it unless you are desperate to get in time for some tent-pole event. The first few hours are usuaully crucial for your future video performance.

 

[Jack Decker]

I almost didn't believe you when you said you were a "marketeer" until I got to the end of your post where you altered my comment in such a manipulative way so that you could make me appear to be an attacker.

Here's a tip. When you tell someone you didn't insult them, don't insult them when telling them that you didn't insult them.

I was not insulting you, I was pointing out the ironic blunder of you misspelling the word uneducated, while berating others for being uneducated.

You and I have a very different idea about what counts as an insult.

Pewdiepie works very hard on his videos, but HE is not the reason for his success. The reason for his success is due to YouTube's viewer retention setup and the fact that since he has multiple fan bases throughout the world...

Which he has cultivated. Surprise! Marketing.

...YouTube promotes his videos more so than they would someone within a single country demographic.

And please give the name (if not link) to an article that backs up this YouTube favoritism accusation.

His success was not intentionally done by him promoting, you can study his success path all you want, but it's impossible to replicate because of it's serendipitous nature.

Please give the name (if not links to articles) that back up this contention. Google "PewDiePie marketing success" and you be given a results pages with many articles about just that. The one at the top of the results page I just generated is titled "3 Content Marketing Strategies PewDiePie Uses to Dominate YouTube".

As for providing them with a reality check...I don't even understand what that's supposed to mean at this point because all they did was ask a question in regards to variety and you went on a rant about (*Best Bill Cosby impersonation*) "the tv shows and the American Idol (Which I believe you meant America's Got Talent? American Idol is almost the pure definition of unvarying.) and the puddin pops."

First, "they" didn't ask but Brantman19 did and he said "What's your take on...". Like "insult" maybe you and I have a different definition on the word "take". I read that as opinion ... which you call a "rant". Yup, no insults flying around here.

And finally no...you don't have to "coddle" them, or "hug and kiss them," but saying things like "As for 650 and 500 views being a lot, sorry, but those aren't." is not advice. That's literally going out of your way just to put someone down.

No, it is trying to get to them to see that it isn't that big of a deal as to base what kind of a channel you should do.

Definition of advice - guidance or recommendations concerning prudent future action, typically given by someone regarded as knowledgeable or authoritative.

Precisely.

But as I see Hazzador has liked this last reply of yours and this is his thread, I'm done here and will be unsubscribing to this thread.

 

[chottom]

@Jack Decker Nice analysis.

Are you making professional YT channel analysis and how much you charge per one? I may be interested.
We are still looking for a way to make our channel viral without using the most common kids YT channels virtualization techniques (I will not be mentioning them in open forum of course).

 

[brantman19]

So this turned into a peeing match...
I think in the end, we can all agree here that Hazzador should continue to do what is best for his channel. If he wants to put multiple types of games up there then he can. Will it work? That depends entirely up to his viewer base. He has 600 views which is awesome to him and actually to a lot of people so that is a win for him. One day that perception might change but until then, he can still have that "W."
As for how Pewds is successful, he began marketing without knowing that he was marketing. There is a video out there that shows some reasons relating to his dual languages and that he gets his videos to English speakers and Swedes because he started his channel there. I don't remember specifics because it wasn't important to me (English speaker, living in America and not changing that anytime...ever)
And lastly, the high road on the "uneducated" wording was not taken by either party. The original post and the original reply back was obviously meant to "start something" and just shouldn't have been used at all. I consider myself educated and part of being in that crowd is to not instigate something and think before you act/type.


Edit to avoid dirty thoughts on the other form of pee. lol

 

[JTMulcahy]

Here's a tip. When you tell someone you didn't insult them, don't insult them when telling them that you didn't insult them.

I shall also share a tip then, don't use manipulative tactics, such as removing key words to a post to try to prove a point. You attacked "YouTubers" based on their education level and I repaid you the favor by catching you in the act of making an uneducated mistake. The intent wasn't to insult, it was just a lighthearted jab, I apologize if it came off more on the venomous side.

Pewdiepie did not cultivate this method of viewer retention, again this was done by YouTube themselves. You're spreading a false statement that Pewdiepie created this concept, this is where we seem to be going head to head. All that Pewdiepie did was create the content that he wanted on his channel and engage with his audience, I'm sure he shared it with friends and such, but that's not the revolutionary concept that we're talking about of the change in views to viewer retention, which is where his success became strong.

Here is a link for you to read -reelseo. com/how- pewdiepie-made-it-to-the-top/ (remove spaces)

The article that you referenced contains "strategies" that are exactly what all YouTubers do, that's a poorly written article for the purpose of drawing attention. It's a fancily written article that basically states to become popular you need to "Create videos" "Gain Subscribers" and "Engage with viewers." That's not a secret strategy, that's called being a YouTuber.

Again, the reason I started this whole debate is that you didn't provide an "opinion" to his question. You went on a YouTuber bashing rant that he got swept up into.

Why not just say that?! Because I TOTALLY did not get that out of "As for 650 and 500 views being a lot, sorry, but those aren't." I can totally understand why he felt you wanted him to just stop making videos.


All in all, YouTube is meant to be a fun community oriented experience, I don't want to fight with anyone. I apologize for any cruelly worded posts.

 

[KWKBOX]

The rule of thumb is only upload at times you would feel comfortable eating at. Most people watch YouTube while they eat a large study has proven.

 

[TheScriptan]

I believe you should check what timezones your viewers comes from usually, add them and get an average of it and upload it at that time.