Sam Pepper

[Stef]

If you have something to say, say it.
Your "Incredible" b******t doesn't bring anything to the table.
So next time, you either say something or keep your mouth shut.

Hold up.

Not you trying to act 'threatening' on a YouTube forum. Cringe.

Not you automatically exposing your bias to this case by admitting you were alleged for rape you claim you didn't do.

Of course you're going to blame the victims whenever a case like this crops up.
Of course you have a vested interest in needing '360 proof' that the victims are lying and not the other way around.

As I said, victim blaming solves nothing. Too many rapists get off for crimes they did commit compared to the other way around to have this mindset of 'They probably Photoshopped the e-mails!1!!1'.

And really? You're going to blame these girls for not coming forward in a time frame that's comfortable for you? Come on man.

******* are crazy.

Enough said.

 

[MarkRodriguez2012]

Well, it does take that one brave person that actually stands up for themselves to encourage the others to step forward too. Most of the time they're not sure there were others until they see that someone else is speaking up about the same thing.

But a good point has been brought up. Are any of these girls actually pressing charges? If Sam goes to court they're gonna need some of them to take the witness stand.

 

[Stef]

That's what I've been saying all along and that's why I think making the videos that they made were pointless and if their story is inconsistent in court it could cause issues.

Maybe they feel as if this is the least intimidating route? Perhaps they may not even go to court where their name, sexual history, character and reputation will be publicly dragged through the mud (as is the case with the majority of rape cases).

If these horrifying replies in this thread are anything to go by ('******* are crazy,' etc.) it could get uglier than what these girls can handle. They can possibly go to court and justice still wouldn't be served - again, as is the case with majority of rape cases. I have a feeling they'd knows they would be beaten before they even started. If you're a famous man, you can get away with anything. Ask Terry Richardson, R. Kelly, or lots of others.

I didn't assume I just said you have to consider the facts lol.

You want me to consider the facts? Fact is: Sam has already shown that he's a liar with his 'reveal' videos ("It was a social experiment!") His behaviour after being accused comes across as a person who is guilty but knows he's going to get away with it: tweeting about TV shows, and hating Mondays. At least stay off a social media for a while. He doesn't seem to understand the gravity of what he's accused of nor does he seem in the least bit remorseful.

But, no...you're probably right. The girls are 'Photoshopping e-mails'.

 

[EleniVTV]

We all need to understand that if a girl is lying then she will be found out. No one wants to believe that any bad thing can happen or that someone who they like, admire, who seems fun would hurt anyone else. Sam Pepper is not blameless in anything. I think this situation as well as the one with Alex Day & Veeoneeye is something that's been a long time coming. They were all going after younger more impressionable girls for a reason...they could be more easily manipulated. It's all unseemly and they shouldn't be allowed to continue profiting from their behavour.

 

[BamaGuyRTR]

This guy deserves whatever bad things that happen to him. How can someone abuse their influence like that and live with it?

 

[chottom]

I really do not know well the details of Sam Pepper's story so I prefer not to discuss it but I want to bring another point:
In the past YouTube/Google gave enormous fame (money) to random people whose main achievement was that they were lucky to create one or two mega-viral videos. Many of these people simply didn't have the capacity to handle such fame and the power/influence it brings. So such things were meant to happen sooner or later.
My point is that may be we should not only blame some young and immature individuals for what happens. It is almost like giving to a kid a loaded gun to play with. To put it in another words - Google used some very primitive algorithmic approach to initiate a grand scale social engineering project (revenue driven of course). Now (and in the future) we are simply observing the side effects of this project.

 

[EleniVTV]

I really do not know well the details of Sam Pepper's story so I prefer not to discuss it but I want to bring another point:
In the past YouTube/Google gave enormous fame (money) to random people whose main achievement was that they were lucky to create one or two mega-viral videos. Many of these people simply didn't have the capacity to handle such fame and the power/influence it brings. So such things were meant to happen sooner or later.
My point is that may be we should not only blame some young and immature individuals for what happens. It is almost like giving to a kid a loaded gun to play with. To put it in another words - Google used some very primitive algorithmic approach to initiate a grand scale social engineering project (revenue driven of course). Now (and in the future) we are simply observing the side effects of this project.

I don't think this applies to Sam. He was a contestant on Big Brother UK. At some point he felt he could just put his hands on random way to young girls.

 

[Stef]

Many of these people simply didn't have the capacity to handle such fame and the power/influence it brings. So such things were meant to happen sooner or later.

Yeah, no. Being young with a lot of money isn't an excuse for rape or any other sexual misconduct.

 

[markkaz]

I don't think this applies to Sam. He was a contestant on Big Brother UK. At some point he felt he could just put his hands on random way to young girls.

Exactly. The types of people drawn to appear on shows like Big Brother aren't exactly the most stable people.

 

[chottom]

Yeah, no. Being young with a lot of money isn't an excuse for rape or any other sexual misconduct.

Of course it is not an excuse! I just wanted to point out that the Google policy (or rather lack of such) have increased the probability of such unfortunate things to happen. That's all.