My thoughts on the Next Gen YouTubers.

[TheWillBox]

My quick thoughts on some of the comments above.

Very nice post Kendra. It's always interesting reading the view points from you veteran YouTubers. I wonder how I will feel once I'm a month into making videos, then 6 months in and etc...

It's still bewildering to me why some people go into youtube with the mindset of quick money. The numbers I've seen where it takes to make decent money was something like 35k views daily which is something I can't even imagine.

 

[xandru8]

Very nice post Kendra. It's always interesting reading the view points from you veteran YouTubers. I wonder how I will feel once I'm a month into making videos, then 6 months in and etc...

It's still bewildering to me why some people go into youtube with the mindset of quick money. The numbers I've seen where it takes to make decent money was something like 35k views daily which is something I can't even imagine.

well
before it took alot of hard work and pacience to make money on youtube but since the standards have gotten so low almoust every body
is taking a shoot at this just for that soul reason and not for the fun of it

 

[Itskamren]

yeah exactly dude even though i think it was more like 07,08 when people actually were on youtube to have fun but either way it has definitely changed i started early last year making comedy vids and i can say that im glad i joined when i did because youtube is just getting more and more worse over time.Everythings about money now to the point where it isnt even fun anymore

 

[Krazy]

I complete agree mate! YouTube has lost its so called "Friendly" Touch to itself, But im enjoying it sofar and YTtalk is probably helping me enjoy it more!

 

[xandru8]

if ppl don`t lose the sight of the comunity and go for the money then we can all help eatchother and have fun

 

[Nolousproductions]

Hey Guys,
I'm fairly new here so I am not to sure what to expect from posting this, but I'll give it a shot.
I have been creating/uploading various genres of content to YouTube since Early 2010. Back in the days when the YouTube Layout was fully personalized and YouTube would call channels to arrange a "Partnership".

Back then, Partnerships were such a rare and exciting thing that only the best of the best had. I have sat back and watched, changed and evolved with the YouTube Community for these years, and have noticed a strange trend happening throughout the Community. It is slowly downgrading from a Community to a sort of "One Man Army" kind of deal. I remember back when I started my first YouTube channel, with only 2 subs and 300 total views I got a shoutout from a channel with 200 subs and so on, which was and still is a massive deal to me. This grew my channel to about 50 subs which was a massive number back then.

Those were the days when your sub-count didn't matter, and you were there purely to help eachother out. Cross promotion, advertising and shout-outs were a common way of helping out your mates or even random strangers to get the recognition they deserved. When the "Big Channels" had no problems with helping out the little guys.

Now, I see channels asking for payments to even receive a subscription of this particular person. And I just don't understand why that is necessary, to this day I have no problems in subscribing to a persons channel if they have good and enjoyable content. But if I am being paid to subscribe to someone, what is the point? There is none.

I am slowly losing faith in the YouTube Community, but after spending just a few minutes on YTtalk I have seen that there is still an under-belly kind of community out there, dedicated to promoting and helping out the smaller channels.

YTtalk is going to be my biggest network now, where I know I can rely on the people I find on here to give me pure, truthful advice for my channel.

Cheers for reading this, I know it is quite a mouthful (that's what she said)
PawTayToe

Awesome post man! I completely agree with you! I just made a post relating to this myself too. It is going the wrong way in youtube now... Lets hope we will see a change or at least we see the hope in these forums

 

[AikoMiyoko]

My quick thoughts on some of the comments above.

YouTubers Not Looking Out for Each Other
I don't know what genre you all are in but I have no problem subbing, tweeting or doing something nice for other channels in my genre or somehow fits with my genre. I don't care if they have 1 sub or 100000 subs.

Also, there are many in my genre who tweet me out, visits my site and says awesome things about me, which sends over subs and viewers. I do the same. I just had a pretty big cooking channel private me on twitter saying she wanted to meet me.

So, I'm just not buying this whole "YouTuber" is no longer a community narrative. Are we not YouTubers here on YTalk? There are several mids to higher level YouTubers on here that come by and offer up help whenever they can. TheGamerFromMars and Wrecklesseating are two that jump into my head.

Making A Living
When people start feeding their families off of this it does changes a little, when you get 200 request a day to shout someone out, it changes a little and I don't begrudge anyone for running their channel anyway they want or for treating it more like a business. This is the real world and when people are trying to make a living it isn't going to be all fun and games and kombaya. Even if they are doing this for fun, once they start making money they have to treat it more like a fun business.

Nostalgia
Oh, back in the day just because someone made partnership didn't mean they're stuff was quality. I think that's a myth rolling in nostalgia.

Partnership
I'm going over this partnership thing in my head, I have a feeling that Networks will be offering a lot of cool things for their members in the future or they won't have members after contracts start to run out. We shall see.

For the Wrong Reasons
Now, this driven by the "wrong reasons" point, who are we to decide what reasons are wrong or right for others? YouTube is a business, they have always been a business, they did not start YouTube so everyone could just post vids and hug each other, even if that's what you want to believe.

Everyone has their own reason for making videos and I think to each his or her own. We have a saying. "Do you" meaning, don't worry about what others are doing and do things your way, finding people who wants to do it your way to and roll with them.

Views makes the money
Last point, so what if almost anyone can be a partner, only people who bring in the views are ever going to make real money, it's always been like that and always will be.

Jaded?
I'm not because I think most people are decent, want a sense of community and enjoy helping others and I refuse to take such a jaded look at things.

Well said

 

[Kath]

I think it all comes down to the fact that Youtube has simply gotten too big........

 

[Symph]

Hey Guys,
I'm fairly new here so I am not to sure what to expect from posting this, but I'll give it a shot.
I have been creating/uploading various genres of content to YouTube since Early 2010. Back in the days when the YouTube Layout was fully personalized and YouTube would call channels to arrange a "Partnership".

Back then, Partnerships were such a rare and exciting thing that only the best of the best had. I have sat back and watched, changed and evolved with the YouTube Community for these years, and have noticed a strange trend happening throughout the Community. It is slowly downgrading from a Community to a sort of "One Man Army" kind of deal. I remember back when I started my first YouTube channel, with only 2 subs and 300 total views I got a shoutout from a channel with 200 subs and so on, which was and still is a massive deal to me. This grew my channel to about 50 subs which was a massive number back then.

Those were the days when your sub-count didn't matter, and you were there purely to help eachother out. Cross promotion, advertising and shout-outs were a common way of helping out your mates or even random strangers to get the recognition they deserved. When the "Big Channels" had no problems with helping out the little guys.

Now, I see channels asking for payments to even receive a subscription of this particular person. And I just don't understand why that is necessary, to this day I have no problems in subscribing to a persons channel if they have good and enjoyable content. But if I am being paid to subscribe to someone, what is the point? There is none.

I am slowly losing faith in the YouTube Community, but after spending just a few minutes on YTtalk I have seen that there is still an under-belly kind of community out there, dedicated to promoting and helping out the smaller channels.

YTtalk is going to be my biggest network now, where I know I can rely on the people I find on here to give me pure, truthful advice for my channel.

Cheers for reading this, I know it is quite a mouthful (that's what she said)
PawTayToe

You know how I see us? I see us as a small militia of vigilantes, who are fighting a tyrannical king who's trying to keep the little people in poverty. We've shown up at a crucial time, and if just ONE of us could become an elite, the whole forum could benefit. I keep slacking on some of the ideas I come up with for forum wide promotion, but things are in the works. We can't let them win, that's all I'm sayin.

 

[xandru8]

You know how I see us? I see us as a small militia of vigilantes, who are fighting a tyrannical king who's trying to keep the little people in poverty. We've shown up at a crucial time, and if just ONE of us could become an elite, the whole forum could benefit. I keep slacking on some of the ideas I come up with for forum wide promotion, but things are in the works. We can't let them win, that's all I'm sayin.

well instead of a king ... i imagine you reffer to youtube i would say that the kings vision has been clouded by the noblemen and those are the youtubers that have reached so hygh that see no more the start from where they apeared and among them are those that only see money and not the comunity ... in a way i think of it like normal society that some that have power try to control the mass that isn`t very well placed and has to strugle to survive ... did that make any sense ?