Multiple YouTube Channels???

Here's three examples of channels that I know with 100% certainty have never advertised and have an extremely erratic release schedule.

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Neither of the above have erratic release schedules. Go to their homepage and click on "Videos". They're both regularly releasing episodes.


I did say successful channels. Meir21 only has 483 subscribers.

So I am still waiting to learn from you about ONE successful YouTube channel that doesn't promote their channel at all and has an erratic release schedule.

Have fun spamming on reddit.

Did I say anything about spamming anything? No. Please don't build and attack straw men.

Managing a release schedule, etc.

You make it out to be something difficult. If your channel is monetized, you can use the scheduler to automatically release out episodes you load up into it.

I'll continue to spend 100% of our time focused on putting out great content (well 90% on content 10% trying to actually help people on YT talk). I know from having been on this forum that a lot of people are really trying to learn how to promote their channel. I'm sure it's working for some of them.

What is your channel? Let us check it out. There is no link to it at the bottom of your posts nor on your members page.
 
I did say successful channels. Meir21 only has 483 subscribers.
Sorry, gave you the channel name not the URL. m2e1iriko. 41,000 subs. 40M views.

What is your channel? Let us check it out. There is no link to it at the bottom of your posts nor on your members page.

Yeah, I don't link to my channels.

You make it out to be something difficult. If your channel is monetized, you can use the scheduler to automatically release out episodes you load up into it.
Never said it was difficult. Just said it doesn't help.

Neither of the above have erratic release schedules. Go to their homepage and click on "Videos". They're both regularly releasing episodes.

Well sure, they release videos. Because they're making money. But not on a set schedule. Like you gotta upload every Monday or even more pointless uploading at the same time every day.

Anyway, not trying to start an argument. Good luck promoting your way to success.
 
Sorry, gave you the channel name not the URL. m2e1iriko. 41,000 subs. 40M views.

Sorry, but 41,000 subs and 40M views isn't enough to make one a full-time YouTuber, unless you're willing to live on less than what a bagboy at a grocery store makes. So, no, that one doesn't count as a successful YouTube channel.

Yeah, I don't link to my channels.

Baloney. High baloney. You're putting people down here who are wanting to know how to promote their channels and for not wanting to make great content. "Learning how to make good content. 0% of their time." Well, let us see YOUR content. Let us see how successful you've been on YouTube by ONLY focusing on making "great" content and not doing any promotion or having a regular release schedule.

Never said it was difficult. Just said it doesn't help.

Contrary to EVERYTHING that I've heard successful YouTubers say or write. Yeah, you definitely know what you're talking about. Now prove it. Give us a link or write out the link (www [dot] youtube [dot] com [slash] channel number) so we can see the fruits of your brilliant contrary-to-logic strategy.

Well sure, they release videos. Because they're making money. But not on a set schedule. Like you gotta upload every Monday or even more pointless uploading at the same time every day

Who said that? But you do need to release at least once a week and that is what both of them are doing. Sorry, again, you're wrong on this point.

Anyway, not trying to start an argument.

What I am now concerned about is you giving others here bad advice. In fact, I wonder a great deal about you and your channel.

Good luck promoting your way to success.

Give us a link to your successful channel that you've been able to make successful without any promotion or a regular release schedule. Come on. Put up or shut up. As you're giving out really bad advice here, I really do mean that.
 
Contrary to EVERYTHING that I've heard successful YouTubers say or write. Yeah, you definitely know what you're talking about. Now prove it. Give us a link or write out the link (www [dot] youtube [dot] com [slash] channel number) so we can see the fruits of your brilliant contrary-to-logic strategy

I'm not linking to my channels because I want to be honest in my feedback and the advice i give without worrying about upsetting anyone. I'm 100% not trying to upset anyone or start arguments like this, it's just if I do I don't want them turning around and trolling my channels. I just want to see people be successful and it's frustrating trying to help people who are convinced they have to do a bunch of things that make no difference. I'm giving honest advice that actually works.
Well, let us see YOUR content. Let us see how successful you've been on YouTube by ONLY focusing on making "great" content and not doing any promotion or having a regular release schedule

Combined I get close to 3M views a day from three channels. I don't know why I should prove it to you because it's irrelevant. You're convinced you have to promote to be succesfull and I'm convinced that promoting your channel kills your average view time and actually prevents success. Doubt we're going to meet in the middle on that. But, just to make you happy here's a screen shot showing my daily views and minutes watched for the last week from one of my channels (and not my biggest one). In case you don't know how to read charts it's an average of 400,000 views a day.


What I am now concerned about is you giving others here bad advice. In fact, I wonder a great deal about you and your channel.
You've got a couple of people on this forum with monster channels (myself included) who post really good advice, but somehow small YouTubers are convinced that YouTube must have somehow helped out and we got lucky or we've got some secret promotion strategy. Good luck promoting your channel. View attachment 31164[DOUBLEPOST=1441988168,1441987144][/DOUBLEPOST]@Jack Decker pulled down the attachment but I know you saw it:) Anyway, good luck.
 
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I'm not linking to my channels because I want to be honest in my feedback and the advice i give without worrying about upsetting anyone.

Baloney! You make statements that are insulting (such as saying "0%" of new YouTubers try to improve their videos) and give "advice" that is contrary to what successful YouTubers have been telling in interviews, articles, and books. I've been a professional marketer for decades and I know what you're saying defies how businesses actually succeed.

I'm 100% not trying to upset anyone or start arguments like this, it's just if I do I don't want them turning around and trolling my channel.

You mean you don't want people to see what YOU have done YOURSELF on YOUR channel based on the "advice" you're giving to others here. Advice that is nothing but horrible. You come and tell people not to "waste" their time promoting their channels, not to maintain a regular release schedule, not to work on how their YouTube homepage looks like, not to do single-topic channels, etc. You say that you can throw just anything onto your channel because it doesn't matter because of ... what? ... YouTube magic? The Hollywood fantasy of "If you build it, they will come"? The engineer's fantasy that they only need to "make the best mousetrap and the world will beat a path to their door"?

I just want to see people be successful and it's frustrating trying to help people who are convinced they have to do a bunch of things that make no difference. I'm giving honest advice that actually works.

No, you're not. You have yet to give me a SINGLE YouTube channel that has become successful by not promoting, not having a regular release schedule, and only focusing on improving the quality of their videos. Your "advice" defies logic and reality. You're not helping newbie YouTubers but actually hurting their chances of success if they actually listen to you.

Combined I get close to 3M views a day from three channels.

Prove it! Tell us which are your three channels. I'm betting you're just full of hot air.

I don't know why I should prove it to you because it's irrelevant.

It is extremely relevant. You're giving "advice" that goes against everything I've read and heard from successful YouTubers, YouTube itself, and business reporters who have done articles on these topics. If you cannot prove that YOU are succeeding with YOUR channel by following YOUR own advice, you're at a minimum a hypocrite. If your channel isn't successful, you're actually a lot worse of an individual.

You're convinced you have to promote to be succesfull and I'm convinced that promoting your channel kills your average view time and actually prevents success.

I'm convinced because I have yet to read or hear of a successful YouTuber who says you can succeed on YouTube without promoting yourself. If you like, I can give you TONS of articles where they have said such. Can you give me a SINGLE business article that advocates what you're advising others to do? I bet you cannot. No more than you can give me the name of a SINGLE YouTube channel that has succeeded using your "strategy".

Doubt we're going to meet in the middle on that.

There's no "middle" on this issue as you have nothing on your side. You have yet to give a name of a SINGLE successful YouTube channel that has become successful without promoting itself and having a regular release schedule. You have yet to even give the name of YOUR "three channels" that has been so successful following your strategy.

But, just to make you happy here's a screen shot showing...

Showing nothing. I can also grab screenshots from any YouTube channel I like. I no more trust that those screenshots are yours than I trust your "advice."

You've got a couple of people on this forum with monster channels...

True.

...(myself included)...

Prove it.

who post really good advice,...

They may, but you don't.

...but somehow small YouTubers are convinced that YouTube must have somehow helped out and we got lucky or we've got some secret promotion strategy.

Where do you come up with these fantasies??? Newbie YouTubers that I've been reading in this sub-forum are not saying anything of the kind. Post links to such statements by newbie YouTubers. Instead, they come here asking for advice. Not secret handshake knowledge, but simple good old advice. Advice that is solid, realistic, and logical. Your advice is none of those three.

Now tell us your three channels. No more baloney. Put up or shut up.
 
I can also grab screenshots from any YouTube channel I like.
Jack, the screen shot I posted showed a date range of the last 7 days available in analytics, views, and minutes watched. You can't get that screen shot unless you have access to that YouTube account. So I either photo shopped it, grabbed it from my own account, or have access to someone else YouTube account. You can't just "grab it" from any YouTube channel.

This will be my last post on this thread because it's getting a little out of hand. I think I rubbed you the wrong way so you rubbed me the wrong way. We're all trying to help each other and I'm not trying to p**s you off.

I've posted the basics of this multiple times on this forum but here's what it boils down to.

YouTube's algorithm is a weighted score card. At least 80% of your score is based on factors that when you dig into you can only achieve by having a high average view percent. If you promote your videos it drops your average view time making YouTube less likely to feed you into suggested videos, both on the right hand column and on people's home page.

YouTube's algorithm does not take into effect channel art, the time you posted the video, etc. Subs don't equal views. Views equal subs. And views come from YouTube promoting your videos for you. Don't do anything that drops your average view time.

Spend 100% of your focus on increasing the quality of your videos as that will increase your average view percent and therefore increase the likelihood of YouTube promoting you. If you think that's bad advice then don't take it.

Either way, I hope you do really well on YouTube.
 
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Jack, the screen shot I posted showed a date range of the last 7 days available in analytics, views, and minutes watched. You can't get that screen shot unless you have access to that YouTube account. So I either photo shopped it, grabbed it from my own account, or have access to someone else YouTube account. You can't just "grab it" from any YouTube channel.

Baloney! Image Google "YouTube analytic graph" and you'll get tons of such images.

This will be my last post on this thread because it's getting a little out of hand. I think I rubbed you the wrong way so you rubbed me the wrong way. We're all trying to help each other and I'm not trying to p**s you off.

But you're not helping anyone with your bad advice. Advice that goes contrary to all marketing principles, what successful YouTubers have been saying, what YouTube is saying, and all articles by business reporters are saying. Advice you cannot back with an example of a SINGLE successful YouTuber who is following it. Advice you say you are doing and CLAIM has resulted in you having "monster" channel BUT you refuse to give us your channel's name. That last sentence kills your position.

I've posted the basics of this multiple times on this forum...

So? You think heavy repetition equates to ... what? Validity? Proof? What? Repetition doesn't make a lie the truth.

YouTube's algorithm is a weighted score card.

True.

At least 80% of your score is based on factors that when you dig into you can only achieve by having a high average view percent. If you promote your videos it drops your average view time making YouTube less likely to feed you into suggested videos, both on the right hand column...

Says who? You? Has YouTube said so? I have never heard where YouTube has EVER told what is involved in their algorithms. Ever. For a time, I was the head marketer for a SEO firm and everyone there was only guessing what was in Google search algorithms. Educated guesses by really smart and experienced computer whizzes specializing in SEO but still nothing more than guesses. We never pretended to clients that our guesses were anything but guesses. We did give what we thought were evidence that backed our guesses but we would not and never did toss out a solid number like "At least 80%".

The reason that YouTube doesn't reveal what's involved in its algorithms is because if they ever did, SEO firms around the world would game it that same day and from then on. Their gaming of it would make the algorithm instantly compromised and thus worthless. That's just the reality of the SEO industry and YouTube knows this and acts accordingly by keeping its mouth shut about what's involved in its algorithms.

...and on people's home page.

I assume you actually meant to say subscription page.

YouTube's algorithm does not take into effect channel art,...

Whoever said it did? Channel art isn't for YouTube but for viewers. It shows viewers that the YouTuber is serious about their channel. It expresses what their channel is about. It is the first impression on your YouTube homepage as us humans scan from the top down. It thus helps (or hurts) your chances of converting a viewer into a subscriber.

...the time you posted the video,...

Again, whoever said that YouTube's algorithm took this into consideration? Like channel art, when you release a video isn't for YouTube's benefit but for the viewer's benefit. You need to understand how videos are presented on viewer's subscription pages. When you release (make public) a video on YouTube, it then appears immediately on a person's subscription page. If you post it when most of your subscribers visit their subscription pages, they will see the notification of your new video at the top of their subscription page or at least near the top. And just as it does for placing high on a result page for a Google search, this increases the chances that your subscribers will then see the notification for your video, click on it, and watch your video. If you make public your video at a wrong time for your viewers, other videos from their other subscriptions will bury your video deep on their subscription page. This is why YouTubers need to analyze their analytics so they can hopefully determine when most of their viewers are viewing their videos and then release them at that time to get the video's notification at the top or near the top of their subscribers' subscription pages.

Subs don't equal views. Views equal subs.

First sentence is true but the second sentence is false. Or are you saying views equal TRUE subs? But this too would be false. Because the notification on people's subscription pages usually gives enough information for subscribers to decide whether or not to click on your video, not all "true" subscribers click on videos. They don't for a variety of reasons. The content isn't of interest to them. [Here's where having too much off-topic content can result in subscribers unsubscribing and thus why you should have your channel be single topic and all off-topic videos put on another channel or at least a vlog support channel.] The video might be longer than they have time for. It looks to be too repetitive of what you've done before. The thumbnail simply doesn't grab them. Any number of reasons why "true" subscribers might not click on the video notification.

And views come from YouTube promoting your videos for you.

No, the VAST majority of any video's views comes from subscribers. Only a tiny fraction comes from YouTube search results. As for being posted on the right column of "related" videos, the biggest factor for your NEW video is its metadata (title, description, and tags). Do they match the video they've clicked on. This is how you can game the system. Tim Schmoyer did a great video on this. YouTube search: "How To Dominate the Related Videos on YouTube" by Tim's Video Creators channel. Yes, view time does factor into how your old videos are ranked but, even here, a very likely bigger factor is if others have already clicked on another video after viewing the one you've clicked on. In other words, YouTube tracks "bandwagon jumping". The more that click on another video after clicking on the current video, the higher that clicked-on video will be ranked on the "Related Videos" column. And there's still more that goes into that and for that I recommend you and others watch Tim's video on this topic.

Don't do anything that drops your average view time.

If you are not willing to have possible new subscribers click away after the first few minutes (if not seconds), you're not understanding how to get new subscribers. In advertising, a good response rate for direct mailings is a whopping ONE percent. A great response rate would be merely double that at TWO percent. But if you're not willing to risk "wasting" 99% of your direct mailings, you're never going to get that one percent. Whole businesses are highly profitable because of getting that mere 1%. I have yet to see anything that would indicate YouTube is any different.

Spend 100% of your focus on increasing the quality of your videos as that will increase your average view percent and therefore increase the likelihood of YouTube promoting you. If you think that's bad advice then don't take it.

It IS bad advice. Please stop giving it to newbies here. Again, it is pure fantasy. It is literally "build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door" fantasy. It is even to the "Field of Dreams" movie fantasy of "if you build it, they will come." So unless you believe in ghosts compelling people to drive to your Iowa farm, you need to promote to get people to know you and your videos exist. For YouTube, the proven biggest key to success in getting new subscribers is doing collaborations with other YouTubers. That's pure promotion of your channel to another channel's subscribers and it works. Better than AdSense advertising. Better anything else you can do. FAR better than just focusing on making your video quality better.

Now I know you've said your last reply will be the last one in this thread, BUT do not feel that you've done anything but exposed yourself as a fraud here. You refusing to give the name of your channels earns you that label. Don't like the label? Give us the name of your channels so we can see for ourselves that you are following your own advice, that it is working, and that it has resulted in your channel being a "monster" channel worthy of copying. Until you do, I can only view you as a fraud and will remember your forum name and warn others when you give out more bad advice here and in other threads. In fact, I will try to remember to refer them back to this thread when I warn them about you.
 
I'm with KWKBox on the question of multiple channels vs. multiple playlists, but what do I know? I'm a newbie.
Thank you Jack Decker for mentioning an automatic scheduler to release my videos. I hadn't thought of that. At the moment, I only have one video in the chamber, but I'll be traveling in a week and my devices are pretty disorganized.
Also, I'd like to think that graphics really do matter to viewers, but I'm also a little worried about whether or not my particular style can find an audience.
 
I'm also a little worried about whether or not my particular style can find an audience.

That's the beauty of YouTube. You can find an audience for what you want to do. Unlike with broadcast and cable TV, you do not have to be a smash hit out of the gate. You can find and grow your audience because no one, but yourself, can cancel your channel. Be true to yourself. Do the channel as you want to do it. Stay at it, release episodes at least once a week, promote as much as you can, ever improve the quality of your videos (that you most learn by RELEASING them and getting feedback from viewers), and you will eventually find an audience. It might not be a huge audience but you don't have to be huge to make a living off of YouTube. Check out Tim Schmoyer's Video Creators channel and mine its archive.
 
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