Google doesn't understand you, so you have to change.

Wreckless Eating said:
Google and YouTube will always give you enough information to help out, but not enough to game the system. So don't expect miracles-but if you read what's in there, you'll know more than 99.9% of the people on this forum.
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Can't say I agree with that statement at all, I find that rather insulting towards the community too.
 
Michael said:
Can't say I agree with that statement at all, I find that rather insulting towards the community too.
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You're welcome to edit it if that's the way you feel. It wasn't meant as an insult. Just an observation. Seeing we have nearly 29k members on here and I've yet to hear something similar to what is in the handbook from more than a small handful of people, I stand by my statement. Information is out there that can give you an advantage over everyone else if you know where to look for it and take the time to learn from it. If you find that insulting, so be it.
 
It come across to me as a dig at the community but it could just be how I read it. I read it as if you were making out the vast majority here don't know much at all about YouTube and video creation as a whole and not just a specific subject like watch time and discoverability. I'm not insulted myself I just perceived it as an insult towards the 99.9 percent.

I'm not going to edit it because I don't agree, were all entitled to our opinions and agreements/disagreements here.
 
Wreckless Eating said:
Instead of guessing, why don't you read the Creator Discovery Handbook and get the info directly from YouTube: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6046763?hl=en&ref_topic=6046759&rd=1
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They didn't explain very clearly some things. For example: the YouTube session doesn't care if it is composed of videos from the same channel or videos from different channels. In the first case you get viral channel in the second viral video.
Also they didn't mentioned at all that the watch time/session is often keyword/keyphrase centered - watch session are formed around keywords (again independently if the the movies are coming from one or several different channels).

Yes - the information is out there but often obscured and incomplete.
 
I'm kinda confused here. Why do filmmakers and animators get less views cause of this? Wouldn't their stuff get more views cause it's a better quality products compared to just some dude talking at the camera?
 
The recent YouTube Creator Academy Boot Camp states that they don't give a suggestion on video lengths. They just state that you should look at the audience retention for drops.
 
Will Finlay said:
I know exactly what you mean and I hate it. I don't want to sound like a film making elitist but it is basically a fact that an excellent animation or film takes a lot more effort and dedication that what someone would call a "quality vlog" or "hilarious gameplay video". This is not a complaint about how vloggers and gamers have it so much easier. It is a complaint towards Youtube/Google for giving even MORE ways for gamers and vloggers to make by taking even more access from filmers and animators. But I guess if you're passionate enough about what you do it's all worth it, right?
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I call b******t on them giving more slack and cards to gamers. It's more of a deal of the bigger get bigger the smaller grow about as fast as your fingernails grow. Think about it even if an ******* that has a million subs but is FAR INFERIOR to someone on YTTalk's content gets 1 minute viewed vs you then you are screwed. Now the counter to that is obviously still SEO. I rank above everyone on "Prison Architect Review" above Sips and Yogscast on it.
 
Interesting. My question is, do you think that as content trends change, Youtube will adapt their algorithms? (For example, years ago "skits" used to be one of the most trendy things on Youtube, nowadays it's more "vlogs" (challenges, tags), and with Vine being a big thing and really short <10 secs videos becoming popular... I'm just wondering how Google takes all this into thought when making site modifications)
 
YouTube states that they want to present the viewer what he really wants to see and advises you not to optimize your videos for algorithms but for people. So yes - YouTube will continue to tweak its algorithms and some of them may temporarily favor certain niches but nobody could tell which one (probably not even YouTube itself).
 
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