Freedom! vs Curse: Union For Gamers

synthetic67

synthetic67

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I've requested to be unlinked from ZoominTV around the 17th of this month, which is when my contract ends. So I've been trying to decide what network to go with next. I've been contacted twice from TGN and Fullscreen, and once from Acifin regarding partnership. But from what I've read here, TGN isn't all that great. Plus I'm not crazy about being stuck in Fullscreen for two years if I don't like it. Not to mention that I've heard they only help much larger channels - who don't really need help.

So I've narrowed my search down to Freedom! and Curse' Union For Gamers. Both have a no lock-in contract. Freedom! has a 60/40 base revshare vs. 90/10 for Curse. I don't quite understand how CPMs work exactly, and haven't found what sort of CPM Freedom! offers, but I've heard around $10 versus $4 to $14 for Curse (even though they say $3 - hence the confusion).

Furthermore, Freedom! is always putting out content on their channels trying to give YouTubers ideas and ways to grow and improve, not to mention having channel spotlights and such to boot. Plus the sheer amount of perks they offer is well documented - sponsorships, free access to XSplit, among many others.

Meanwhile, I can't find any channel to speak of for Union For Gamers. Their forums are hidden from non-partners, except for a rarely updated news section and more open but not overly useful (at this point) discussion section. From what I've read, they offer some unnamed app for making thumbnails (which would likely have a learning curve), plus the potential (though it seems pretty slim according to their partners) for free promotion on one of their many video game themed sites. Their ads are also geared towards gamers, thus increasing the likelihood of viewer retention.

So what do you guys recommend? I've seen many threads here where people seem to lean toward Freedom!, but at the same time, I haven't seen much if any mention of Curse: Union For Gamers. Are there any pros or cons for either network beyond what I've listed here? I would greatly appreciate your help.
 
Why did you cross out Fullscreen? I don't know what you heard about them only helping bigger channels but they by a long way have the best tools to help you grow a channel, I would recommend firstly trying with them to get a 1 year contract.

On the other two, Curse is more for gamers who want revenue as opposed to growth whereas Freedom seems more focused on growth (low revshare & no adsales team) but I would not go with Freedom unless they offer you more than 60% as it's not worth it for that.
 
Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah 60/40 is pretty weak. Isn't that what Fullscreen, TGN, and Acifin offer as well though? And part of me is thinking growth is more important than getting paid. Because then as you get bigger, the opportunities for making more money increase.
 
synthetic67 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah 60/40 is pretty weak. Isn't that what Fullscreen, TGN, and Acifin offer as well though? And part of me is thinking growth is more important than getting paid. Because then as you get bigger, the opportunities for making more money increase.
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I think TGN & Acifin offer 60% by default yes.

I think Fullscreen may be 70-80 but I'm not sure but on the other hand I think that Fullscreen has by far the best tools to aid with growth.
 
I think personally whie your still seen as a "small" YouTuber, I think it maybe best going for the network that will offer you the better perks (XSplit is a great perk if you get the paid for version for free)

but thats just me, if your lucky enough to hit over 100k subs, look more into the money side of it, because then, the bigger networks will spend more time with you too, and the perks will get better for you?

I maybe talking rubbish however, as Im not upto speed on networks and such. best of luck to you though
 
I think it's fairly easy to say that HisNHer. But once you start averaging $30 to $50 a month (what I've gotten over the past year), it's harder to justify potentially taking a cut in pay. I know that's not a whole lot of money, certainly nowhere near enough to live on, but it does help ease the burden of paying for equipment, games, etc. Still, I very possibly might go in that direction, but I'd like to see more opinions on this matter - specifically regarding the original question. Freedom! or Curse: Union For Gamers?
 
Shane.C said:
I think TGN & Acifin offer 60% by default yes.

I think Fullscreen may be 70-80 but I'm not sure but on the other hand I think that Fullscreen has by far the best tools to aid with growth.
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never go to a bbtv network, the contract deals are ridiculous. i'd say fullscreen or curse, both have good support and you'd like either one of them.
 
Pwnage said:
never go to a bbtv network, the contract deals are ridiculous. i'd say fullscreen or curse, both have good support and you'd like either one of them.
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What makes you think I'd like them out of curiosity? And why not Freedom? Also, from what I've heard, Fullscreen doesn't really do much to help small channels unless they get 1k subs in a month.
 
synthetic67 said:
What makes you think I'd like them out of curiosity? And why not Freedom? Also, from what I've heard, Fullscreen doesn't really do much to help small channels unless they get 1k subs in a month.
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depends on who you get for a manager, i personally have someone really good but there are other people at fullscreen who are a bit lazy
 
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