DO NOT JOIN Maker Studios (RPM Networks, ParaMaker, TGS) READ THIS TO KNOW WHY!

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Lot of misinformation, misinterpretation and misguided feelings in this thread. Not sticking up for Maker at all, just I have been a partner in 3 large networks since I started in 2005. Every single one offered some things, did not follow through with others and downright lied about others. Ultimately it is up to YOU to take control of your business. No contract owns you at the most they own your current content. If you dont like it, then make a new channel and start over. If your subs are legitimate then you should have no worries about moving to a new channel.

Dont like something, leave, suck it up and start over with new name and series. Honestly there is a bunch of whining on this thread and its being directed at one network when every single one has its foibles. Read a contract completely, if you don't like it don't accept it. If you don't understand it, it is in YOUR best interest to get a lawyer. After all, signing something without proper knowledge is foolish, and you have no one to blame but yourself.
 
Yeah, it just kinda seems he didn't fully read the contract and is upset the network isn't working the way he thought it would. I'm with RPM, and no problems here.
 
Lot of misinformation, misinterpretation and misguided feelings in this thread. Not sticking up for Maker at all, just I have been a partner in 3 large networks since I started in 2005. Every single one offered some things, did not follow through with others and downright lied about others. Ultimately it is up to YOU to take control of your business. No contract owns you at the most they own your current content. If you dont like it, then make a new channel and start over. If your subs are legitimate then you should have no worries about moving to a new channel.

It's good to see a change of opinion from the mainstay of "yeah man, Maker Studios is the devil, you see what they did to RWJ?" characteristic I fear might have engulfed the thread. I agree -- they are not the incarnation of Lucifer. They are simply incompetent and unprofessional; occasionally to the point of breaking their own contracts in order to cut corners.

At the same time, I don't think you've interpreted my side of the story correctly either. I took charge of the situation with my relationship with Maker Studios, was excommunicated by my manager and initially dismissed by RPM support, and had to do a very impulsive thing to get out of my contract.

Dont like something, leave, suck it up and start over with new name and series.

Had I simply given up, BarackObeezy would be bound to Maker's CMS, my money would be held in a piggy bank I couldn't access until I reached a certain amount (despite promises to the contrary; including in my contract), and I would accept being a victim of Maker's illegal act; breach of contract.

If what you say is true - that you've been making videos since 2005 and that you've been through 3 networks already, what are they and why did you stop making content on your other channel(s)? Surely you couldn't have been a content creator on YouTube since 2005 and yet not have a single video on your channel until late February of this year.

Honestly there is a bunch of whining on this thread and its being directed at one network when every single one has its foibles. Read a contract completely, if you don't like it don't accept it. If you don't understand it, it is in YOUR best interest to get a lawyer.

I know better than to assume that this part of the post is directed at me; I read my contract thoroughly before signing it and made clear of it in my post. Nowhere does it say I am subject to holds on my account (although I do acknowledge newer contracts have them written in), but it does say no changes to the agreement can be made unless there is separate approval between both parties. Obviously, I never consented to the change, but they still did it anyway because they thought they could get away with it. And they almost did, if it weren't for an email I happened to come across from 2012 from Royalties letting the partners know of a minor error that happened with the statements.

After all, signing something without proper knowledge is foolish, and you have no one to blame but yourself.

Not even Maker could foresee the irony in your post. They're supposed to be worth millions, and they couldn't even manage to follow their own contract. It's a shame.

I was paid three months late, but that is better than not being paid at all. Despite what Maker say, I didn't get dropped from Maker, I dropped their network because they broke their promise, and their contract. I had no exit clause, but I had the end of my term coming up, but even then they tried to change the dates and disregard the emails I sent to their @makerstudios.com addresses. But I defeated them, I regained control of my channel despite the odds, and all this without a single legal threat. That, my friend, is resourcefulness. I don't have to start all over again on another channel for that.

I respect your opinion, as well as the opinions of other people who choose to disregard these posts and join Maker Studios. I'm not going to go into the "I got accepted by RPM" thread and shitpost because they have the newer contracts and what Maker is going to do to your money is already spelled out in the contract. I never had any of that in my agreement with them, though. Yet they changed it, giving a middle finger to all of the older partners, just because it made them more money. They spent their $40 million in venture capital recklessly, and they decided that their partners were the ones to foot the bill.

Yeah, it just kinda seems he didn't fully read the contract and is upset the network isn't working the way he thought it would. I'm with RPM, and no problems here.

Thanks for the disclosure.

Geekdomo's came to me through other means.

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Geekdomo, does your contract have the hold in it? I had a similar dialogue with the other partners over at the RPM forums when I still had an account there.
 
Lots of what, then? Point it out, don't just blurt this nonsense. What did I say that was misinformation? It doesn't matter if the other networks do it, it doesn't make it right. So now just because there are murderers out there it's ok to go out and kill somebody? Duh.

No, I will not close my channel and start over. I should not suffer financial loss because a petty business thinks they can control me. I treat my channel exactly like a business, and business owners don't just close doors and move when there are issues around, nobody does that. If you're the kind of person who thinks that doing this is okay, then do it yourself, but to expect others to do the same is quite pathetic.

You're assuming that I didn't read the contract, so you should be the one who should read the whole thread. I read the whole contract and I agreed with it. Then the network broke that contract, so it's not valid anymore. Maybe, just maybe before making a comment you should read and ask questions before you blurt out such vitriol. I backed up all of my statements with facts, you just provided your opinion, so before you call my thread a lot of trash, look at yourself in the mirror.

Lot of misinformation, misinterpretation and misguided feelings in this thread. Not sticking up for Maker at all, just I have been a partner in 3 large networks since I started in 2005. Every single one offered some things, did not follow through with others and downright lied about others. Ultimately it is up to YOU to take control of your business. No contract owns you at the most they own your current content. If you dont like it, then make a new channel and start over. If your subs are legitimate then you should have no worries about moving to a new channel.

Dont like something, leave, suck it up and start over with new name and series. Honesltly there is a bunch of whining on this thread and its being directed at one network when every single one has its foibles. Read a contract completely, if you don't like it don't accept it. If you don't understand it, it is in YOUR best interest to get a lawyer. After all, signing something without proper knowledge is foolish, and you have no one to blame but yourself.
[DOUBLEPOST=1373792320,1373792143][/DOUBLEPOST]Read the whole thread if you care before saying that I didn't fully read the contract, OR don't make such comments. I didn't say that the network doesn't do things that are right, I just said that when they do something wrong and it is your right to leave, they won't let you go. If you're not mature enough to understand this, then why are you even in a network? You should be the one who should read your contracts better because you just don't know what you got yourself into. Through my issues with them I've gathered so much official information that I know a lot more than you think, and I certainly am better informed than you are when it comes to networks and their dealings. Someone who "never had any problems" is just complacent, and complacency doesn't teach people anything.

Yeah, it just kinda seems he didn't fully read the contract and is upset the network isn't working the way he thought it would. I'm with RPM, and no problems here.
 
I kinda of enjoy your over the top extreme views. The world is not out to get you. I said in the beginning I have been with 3 large networks and none of them were perfect. Calling me out by posting my network affiliation is just par for the course for you two. Your conspiracy theorists that assume that everyone is out to get you.

My post was directed at Hahahahahcrazyhaha has done little here other than bash Maker. This thread no more deserves to be stickied than someone here promoting their network. My videos barely ever get a negative vote and after I posted here last night suddenly I had 6 thumbs down. Its pretty obvious we are dealing with petulant and aggressive people that feel maligned and abused.

I expect you will both write tomes of exposure and scandal when the fact is; I am with RPM. They have done nothing but help me out. I read the contract I was getting in with and I do understand you feel that you somehow deserve the same respect as Ray William Johnson but in fact he gets more views per minute than both of you together get a month. You are not on his level and you did not get the same contract he did. Get over yourselves.

I am most upset by the way you exposed my network affiliation Barak. I never said I was not with Maker. I merely said that there was too much complaining with little regard for assistance others have offered. Reading back through this thread a 3rd time I cant force myself to read the volume of rants directed at a single network when they all have problems. It seems that anyone mentioning how Maker is not that bad gets bashed quite quickly and ridiculed.

What I wrote last night was a bit inflammatory I agree. I did start out offering some suggestions to help but decided that would fall on deaf ears. Everyone is out to get you Haha, as soon as you realize that maybe you will find some peace.

I am curious how you found this thread Barak? Did Haha invite you to come make an account here? If so you are being used as a way to bolster his views. Reading back through the first couple of pages where people offered advice on how to fix it or just mentioned how reality was, showed how he was losing support with his argument. Then you show up and now he has an ally. Convenient at best. Just something for the conspiracy.

Wish you all the best.
 
You know how you say Maker did a sub4sub thing, which is against YouTube's ToS? It isn't as you think it is.

Inter-networking like that IS allowed. It is only when you find randoms not in the same network that it is not allowed. I know that sounds massively hypocritical but from what I was told by someone with 100k+ subs who knows many people at Google and Fullscreen, this is how it is.

Secondly, the ToS are guidelines, it is not a legally binding document, like your network contract is. They cannot take you to Court for sub-4-subbing, they can simply give you a strike or delete your channel. You may know nothing about law, but I worked in it for nearly 8 years.

Thirdly, I've been reading through this thread and whilst I appreciate your original intent, and appreciate some people disagreed; you are being rather rude and unnecessarily sarcastic to our members (telling them to buy a dictionary, dropping hints that they are 'like Maker'). You must accept that not everyone will agree.

I for one don't agree. I used to be with RPM and had a great contract, same as you 60/40 for two years. No issues whatsoever.

I think you need to calm down a bit, you've written a mile long essay in every reply since you started posting. If it bothers you so much, you can approach a lawyer and get yourself out of the contract. It will cost you up to several thousand and might end up in Court. If you're not in the US you will have extra problems. Short answer: it isn't worth it, at all.

Otherwise, you can wait it out. If you like you can just breach their contract and get dropped but then if you do that of course you risk your channel going under so I wouldn't actually recommend that.
 
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