DO NOT JOIN Maker Studios (RPM Networks, ParaMaker, TGS) READ THIS TO KNOW WHY!

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Of course I did! How would they know of their breach if I didn't? This post was the last resort, it is the only thing I can do, which is to advise other people. I have all emails I exchanged with them here, there's more than 10 emails in total where I explain everything with facts and they give one of those scripted replies.

What kind of support were you looking for as theres only so much networks can really help with?
 
I wrote a huge hate letter on a certain network you may or may not be referencing but my release form stated I had to remove prior remarks and cease entire communication with/towards them in the future.

Fullscreen is awesome.
 
I was looking for what was written in my contract, which I am under no obligation to quote here. Like I said, I am stating facts, it is up to the individual to make up their mind. Just to clarify, when I say "support" I don't mean technical support, it is related to the development of the channel, but I will not get into details about that as it is pointless. My main issue, if you haven't noticed yet, is that they committed fraud according to YouTube and placed my account under threat of termination. Please stop sidelining this serious issue to try to put the support stuff under the spotlight. The support issue was one thing, it was a rant. My issue is with the fraudulent activity and breach of contract.

What kind of support were you looking for as theres only so much networks can really help with?
 
I was looking for what was written in my contract, which I am under no obligation to quote here. Like I said, I am stating facts, it is up to the individual to make up their mind. Just to clarify, when I say "support" I don't mean technical support, it is related to the development of the channel, but I will not get into details about that as it is pointless. My main issue, if you haven't noticed yet, is that they committed fraud according to YouTube and placed my account under threat of termination. Please stop sidelining this serious issue to try to put the support stuff under the spotlight. The support issue was one thing, it was a rant. My issue is with the fraudulent activity and breach of contract.

Im not sidelining anything, if thats your main issue then theres little you can do about it other than voice your concerns to them and YouTube.
 
Ok, if you say that you aren't, then you aren't and I believe you. Now, by saying that I can only voice my concerns to them and YouTube is factually incorrect. I can voice my concerns here too, or in other forums or other places on the internet like blogs. People should know the good and the bad about Maker Studios to make an informed decision, even if they don't care about the money. What if one day you become big and start earning loads while contractually bound to a company that only exists to exploit you? I'm pretty sure that you'd change your mind pretty fast if you knew the shady stuff they did/do/can do. The networks never say the bad and they always say the good about their behaviour (obviously in their interest to omit the bad stuff, as in any business) so I think it is reasonable to state what they do which is not in anybody's interests except the network's own, especially when it involves fraud (according to YouTube's ToS).

Im not sidelining anything, if thats your main issue then theres little you can do about it other than voice your concerns to them and YouTube.
[DOUBLEPOST=1372973459,1372973240][/DOUBLEPOST]Interesting that you mention that.
If this network you had issues with that I may or may not have mentioned is the same network that RWJ may or may not have been in pretty much does this to the big as well as small guys. Seems like it's this network's standard business to try to shut people up and try to cover up their mess.

I wrote a huge hate letter on a certain network you may or may not be referencing but my release form stated I had to remove prior remarks and cease entire communication with/towards them in the future.

Fullscreen is awesome.
 
I was looking for what was written in my contract, which I am under no obligation to quote here. Like I said, I am stating facts, it is up to the individual to make up their mind. Just to clarify, when I say "support" I don't mean technical support, it is related to the development of the channel, but I will not get into details about that as it is pointless. My main issue, if you haven't noticed yet, is that they committed fraud according to YouTube and placed my account under threat of termination. Please stop sidelining this serious issue to try to put the support stuff under the spotlight. The support issue was one thing, it was a rant. My issue is with the fraudulent activity and breach of contract.

. . .alright good luck with that.
Michael is one of the most helpful people on this forum but if you too anger to allow anyone to help you and going to start saying your not obligated to quoting things here than that's your problem. No one said you were obligated to do anything. No one was forcing you. He just asked what you expected the network to do for you vs what you thought the contract said. Maybe it could help you get a better contract in the future.
And for the record from reading your post, it seems like you were upset about the lack of support, but by all means claim that you're only mad about the fraud and everything else was ranting.
anyways good luck.
 
This lines up with much of what I've heard from Maker. The only exception is that to date, I've not heard or seen anyone actively trying to leave TGS.
 
Thanks again for the reply, but let's make things clear. I am not here looking for help... I am here to leave information. I wasn't being rude or angry, I was being direct. I don't want anybody to think that I'm being unreasonable with Maker Studios because I am not, I am simply exercising my rights, which are set on the contract that THEY offered me. Nowhere in my post I stated that I was looking for advice in regards to obtaining a new contract in the future, this is something that you are assuming, which is incorrect. Please do not make assumptions, let's just work with facts and with present (not imaginary) information here. For you to state that I was simply mad about the lack of support is completely ignorant of your part. Since when is fraud something to be ignored? Since when has fraud become blasé? Fraud is SERIOUS. It is a CRIME. If you can't understand what fraudulent activity can cause, and you decide to focus on something irrelevant as some support issue, then please leave this thread right now. You are not mature enough to be able to prioritize the issues. Fraud is serious, this is what I wanted to expose, if you're here trying to make it less serious by using another part of my post, then just leave, because you do not understand the legal and criminal implications of fraud. Thanks for your wishes of luck but I don't need luck, like I said I am only here to give information, you were the one assuming that I was looking for help, maybe because a lot of people here only join to ask for help and then leave you have the impression that everyone does that, but I don't, so next time you come across one of my posts, please do me a favour and read the entire thing clearly, not with a pre-concept in your mind.

. . .alright good luck with that.
Michael is one of the most helpful people on this forum but if you too anger to allow anyone to help you and going to start saying your not obligated to quoting things here than that's your problem. No one said you were obligated to do anything. No one was forcing you. He just asked what you expected the network to do for you vs what you thought the contract said. Maybe it could help you get a better contract in the future.
And for the record from reading your post, it seems like you were upset about the lack of support, but by all means claim that you're only mad about the fraud and everything else was ranting.
anyways good luck.
 
And for the record from reading your post, it seems like you were upset about the lack of support, but by all means claim that you're only mad about the fraud and everything else was ranting.

To be fair, an incentivized dashboard like/sub farm from the largest partner network is more than a little against the TOS.

Unfortunately, every network puts that kind of "we can help promote your channel" verbiage into the contract with no corresponding obligation to follow through. It's nothing more than a red herring.
 
I am glad that you understand that the serious issue that I wanted to inform everyone was about the fraud, not the "support". The support is something I could deal with, but fraud is definitely something I can't accept, and you seem to understand this point and know the implications.

To be fair, an incentivized dashboard like/sub farm from the largest partner network is more than a little against the TOS.

Unfortunately, every network puts that kind of "we can help promote your channel" verbiage into the contract with no corresponding obligation to follow through. It's nothing more than a red herring.
 
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