Styxie
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It's not called making fun of personal decisions, it is called asking a perfectly legitimate question. Also yay passive aggressive threats..
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JawbreakerGamer
I've Got It
Lol not passive, doesn't matter to me if i get my staff friends in here
Styxie
I Love YTtalk
Now that just makes you sound a bit silly..
I'm asking you a legitimate question, in the hopes of helping this guy build a good computer. Not much to ask really but people love making things complicated.
Tarmack
Rhetorical Porcupine
There is quite literally nothing inherent in a PC build that requires any degree of secrecy. Well, unless people don't like others criticizing their build because it's terrible.
Now, on to the OP. Here are my suggestions, and I've been building computers for 20 years.
The 4670 is a good chip. Socket 1150. Personally, I prefer to match my motherboard to the video card. I buy almost exclusively Asus. ASRock was created by Asus, but they're the lower end boards. They're often overhyped due to the sponsorships that sometimes go along, as though some gamer using a particular board makes it a better board.
If you're only going with one video card, then you don't need either SLI or Crossfire which will drop the price a fair bit. And honestly, I wouldn't recommend SLI or Crossfire unless you're going to do it right now. If you choose to do it later, just get a new board. Most people have visions of going multi-video card at some point but just never get around to it so it's wasted money on the extra PCIX slot(s) that you'll never use.
I'd suggest the Asus B85M-E/CSM board with the Intel chip you mentioned. The motherboard will handle your 7.1 audio as well as your Ethernet plug. It has onboard video just in case your video card ever goes down. I would follow that up with an ASUS nVidia GTX760. The PSU would be fine, though I tend towards Antec myself. Good choice on keeping the case cost down.
You're not specific enough on your RAM choice though. You don't just go buy 8GB of RAM and call it a day. The board I suggested will take 1600MHZ(PC12800). I usually buy Corsair for RAM, and 8GB will set you back about $100.
Now, if you have no idea what you're doing, try to find a decent local sales company who can at the very least mount the CPU to the motherboard for you. Everything else is pretty foolproof but if you're doing it for the first time, mounting the CPU, heatsink with thermal paste and all, you can really f**k up your new purchase.
Now, on to the OP. Here are my suggestions, and I've been building computers for 20 years.
The 4670 is a good chip. Socket 1150. Personally, I prefer to match my motherboard to the video card. I buy almost exclusively Asus. ASRock was created by Asus, but they're the lower end boards. They're often overhyped due to the sponsorships that sometimes go along, as though some gamer using a particular board makes it a better board.
If you're only going with one video card, then you don't need either SLI or Crossfire which will drop the price a fair bit. And honestly, I wouldn't recommend SLI or Crossfire unless you're going to do it right now. If you choose to do it later, just get a new board. Most people have visions of going multi-video card at some point but just never get around to it so it's wasted money on the extra PCIX slot(s) that you'll never use.
I'd suggest the Asus B85M-E/CSM board with the Intel chip you mentioned. The motherboard will handle your 7.1 audio as well as your Ethernet plug. It has onboard video just in case your video card ever goes down. I would follow that up with an ASUS nVidia GTX760. The PSU would be fine, though I tend towards Antec myself. Good choice on keeping the case cost down.
You're not specific enough on your RAM choice though. You don't just go buy 8GB of RAM and call it a day. The board I suggested will take 1600MHZ(PC12800). I usually buy Corsair for RAM, and 8GB will set you back about $100.
Now, if you have no idea what you're doing, try to find a decent local sales company who can at the very least mount the CPU to the motherboard for you. Everything else is pretty foolproof but if you're doing it for the first time, mounting the CPU, heatsink with thermal paste and all, you can really f**k up your new purchase.
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For Fun Gaming
Loving YTtalk
Tarmack is pretty much on target, except memory seems a bit expensive, you could get pretty decent 8 gb corsair memory for around $50 USD online. And if you're going to capture gaming content, 1gb is nowhere near enough for hard drive. An SSD is a good thing to aim for, and for around $100 or less, you could get a 128 gb to install your o/s and software, and use another 2gb or more drive for data.
Tarmack
Rhetorical Porcupine
heh, well, you CAN get 8GB Corsair economy line for $50 but that's usually the range that Kingston runs in as well. The XMS3 or Vengeance lines are good IMO. Most of the cheap RAM ends up being cheap only because of mail in rebates which are always a bit on the questionable side for when/if you'll get your money back.
My structure for a game recording computer is 1 SSD and 2 HDD's. SSD for windows install, 1 HDD for game installs and the second HDD for dedicated video dump. Most people can get away with just one HDD unless they're planning to record 1080p uncompressed. Ideally, you'd go even further with a raid 5 setup (a striped mirror, for speed and redundancy) but that's excessive for most people. Just make damn sure to get 7200RPM hard drives, not 5400RPM. I'm going to be upgrading my dedicated video dump to 2 1TB drives in Raid 0 because I've been having data write speed problems. Requires a raid card to do it properly though.
For Fun Gaming
Loving YTtalk
You're right, my memory seems to be failing me. Just checked what I got about 2 years ago, $130 for 2x8 gb set of Kingston Hyper X. Doesn't look like memory prices have fallen down as sharply in the last couple years.
I have a 4 hard drive setup, 2 ssd, 2 magnetic. 1 SSD for o/s and software, 1 SSD for games, 1 very small magnetic drive (320gb) for temporary files only, and a 2 gb magnetic drive for any production files, audio, video, images, project files and so on. If I was adding one more component, I'd definitely go with some redundancy, it's just too much effort to lose due to hardware failure.
Tarmack
Rhetorical Porcupine
Very much thanks on the advice wise lad!
Butt, I still don't get 1/4 of what you're saying though. For example how important it is to have 2 video card rather than one? I still don't get the concept on this one
Andd so what is the best RAM brand in both price and quality?
Then which one should I get? A SSD or normal hard drive? I don't want to spend to much on this, I just want more space.
And lastly what is a heatsink and should I get a water cooler/additional fan for the pc?
Sorry for the nubish question. Again like I said before I am a gigantic nub when it comes to building PC because I never own nor build a pc!
P.S. I was wondering to get ASUS GTX 650 Ti
heh, no worries.
Ok, computer lessons time. SLI/Crossfire is a motherboard setup that allows the use of multiple video cards. Usually 2 but sometimes 3 cards in the same computer. They are connected via a bridge cable and essentially 2 or 3 video cards can do more computations than just one, assuming all else is equal. You can get better performance. However, you won't get 2X performance with 2 video cards. YOu might get 1.5X performance. So SLI/Crossfire is primarily for people who are either enthusiast computer builders or have a lot of money because spending that extra $300 on a second video card to only get an extra 50% boost in performance isn't worth it to most people. I would say don't worry about it.
For RAM. I prefer Corsair. I've used it in every computer I've built in the last 10 years and I've never had a chip fail in that time. The only RAM I've had bad experiences with though is Kingston. Generally, when choosing RAM it is best to pick up the higher clock speed RAM that your motherboard supports. The faster the RAM, the better the read and load performance will be. The motherboard specs page will list supported RAM in one or both of two formats. Either "PC XXXX" or "XXXX MHz". The motherboard I'd suggested supported up to 1600MHz for example, also known as PC12800. So just make sure you're getting the RAM that matches the board.
For Hard Drives. SSD (Solid State Drives - which means no moving parts) are still expensive for the size. These are best used to put your windows install and/or game installs on. SSD's have a very fast read time, but are meh for writing speed. This means that your windows and video game boot up times will be much faster. So normally, I suggest a small SSD (100GBish) to install windows and maybe whatever main game you're playing that month onto, and then a big storage drive (HDD - Hard Disc Drive which are the ones that have spinning platters and can be found in sized up to about 4TB now) for all your s**t.
Don't get a special cooler. You're not an enthusiast builder and won't be overclocking your CPU/RAM. As such, the stock heatsink which comes with the CPU will be sufficient. And, NEVER overclock anything unless you have the money sitting around to replace whatever part you're messing with.
