50 FPS footage in 60 FPS project? Will it work?

NuSpirit

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Hey guys :)
I would like to ask for a tiny help. I recently asked for help with picking camcorder as I plan to use camcorder and capture card for my videos instead of normal webcam. So far it wouldnt be a problem, I even picked some neat cams I could afford, but thanks to PAL/NTSC regions I have a slight new issue. I record all my gameplay footage at 60 FPS (you know ... #MasterRace anyone? :D ) and since I live in Europe, every single camcorder records at 1080@25/50p (and I ruled out DSLRs out of question due to 30 minutes limit as I intend to do sometimes bulk recordings).

So my question(s) would be - will it cause any (significant) problems if I import cam footage at 50 FPS into 60 FPS project (like frame skipping, stuttering, or so)? Or should I get 60 FPS camcorder from USA to match frames?

Reason why I am doubting buying camera from USA for 60 FPS recording is price (Canon Vixia HF R700 is $299 + $60-$70 shipping + possible VAT and CLO fees [60 FPS]; or I could get locally Canon Legria HF R706 $269 with VAT and free shipping [50 FPS]) and probable troubles with RMA if something happens. For capture card I plan to use Elgato Game Capture HD60 Pro & I use Adobe Premiere Pro software to edit.

Thank you for help :)
 
I think it would be better if the camera mached the 60 fps framerate of the video itself, I dont know if it would cause choppy footage at 50 but better safe than sorry i suppose and maybe this LINK helps.
 
Disable auto shutdown and use the HDMI out from a DSLR to record remotely on the device of your choice.. problem solved you can record as much as you want then but watch out for overheating depending on conditions while going over 1-2 hours nonstop Your also going to want an AC battery adapter like I have for my 70D when doing extremely long shoots lasting over an hour... If you place 50fps footage in a 60fps project if its anything like the editors I use, the project will be set to 50.
 
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mitchell scott said:
I think it would be better if the camera mached the 60 fps framerate of the video itself, I dont know if it would cause choppy footage at 50 but better safe than sorry i suppose and maybe this helps.
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Still not in my comfort zone (different EU country) but much better than buying overseas :)

BecomeAPrime said:
Disable auto shutdown and use the HDMI out from a DSLR to record remotely on the device of your choice.. problem solved you can record as much as you want then but watch out for overheating depending on conditions while going over 1-2 hours nonstop Your also going to want an AC battery adapter like I have for my 70D when doing extremely long shoots lasting over an hour... If you place 50fps footage in a 60fps project if its anything like the editors I use, the project will be set to 50.
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- well DSLR like this sounds good, but wont it have worse quality of output compared to camcorder in same price range?
- if I put first 60 FPS gameplay footage and after that 50 FPS cam footage, it shouldnt (at least I hope) change settings to 50.
- now I realized one thing - if I use passthrough HDMI capture via capture card, will camera output still 50 FPS even not recording? (I guess it probably will and it wont be only SW problem but HW "feature" :/ )
 
NuSpirit said:
Still not in my comfort zone (different EU country) but much better than buying overseas :)



- well DSLR like this sounds good, but wont it have worse quality of output compared to camcorder in same price range?
- if I put first 60 FPS gameplay footage and after that 50 FPS cam footage, it shouldnt (at least I hope) change settings to 50.
- now I realized one thing - if I use passthrough HDMI capture via capture card, will camera output still 50 FPS even not recording? (I guess it probably will and it wont be only SW problem but HW "feature" :/ )
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FPS should always auto set to the lowest setting in the project as far as I know.
I can't really speak for quality output.. it depends on the device your using and the purpose in all honesty.
Camera should output whatever fps it supports, as long as its HDMI out supports it, at all times.
 
BecomeAPrime said:
FPS should always auto set to the lowest setting in the project as far as I know.
I can't really speak for quality output.. it depends on the device your using and the purpose in all honesty.
Camera should output whatever fps it supports, as long as its HDMI out supports it, at all times.
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Guess I should then probably test some videos to see what it does with my software, before even buying camera.

And because camera supports 1080@50p then I guess even image passthrough will be at 50 FPS :/ But thank you for help :)
 
NuSpirit said:
Well I just tried it and it is as you said :/ So changing it every time will a bit annoying :( But thanks for the tip :)
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it shouldn't be able to change the output higher than the footage included. My suggestion is if you need 60fps get something which records 60fps and set your shutter to 1/120th. that or get something that does 30fps and set your shutter to 1/60th to get proper motion blur to match up well with the game and then just render in 30fps. Your viewers see 30fps anyway unless they watch 720 or above and very few people where I live can handle 720p60.
 
BecomeAPrime said:
it shouldn't be able to change the output higher than the footage included. My suggestion is if you need 60fps get something which records 60fps and set your shutter to 1/120th. that or get something that does 30fps and set your shutter to 1/60th to get proper motion blur to match up well with the game and then just render in 30fps. Your viewers see 30fps anyway unless they watch 720 or above and very few people where I live can handle 720p60.
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I would rather go for something with 60 FPS recording as I really think for gaming videos is 60 FPS if not must have, then at least big bonus to it :)
 
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