YouTube isn't for everyone.

[Spudster100]

Its easy, some have more then that an decided to end because they dont have the interest anymore. Or maybe things just come up and can no longer upload.

It's hard enough to get that far so good point[DOUBLEPOST=1394957481,1394957083][/DOUBLEPOST]

Idk what videos you are watching but there are a ton of youtubers and videos that have gotten to where they are because of their content. Working hard is sooo essential to your videos and people that spent less than 5 minutes editing are gaming channels lol. I spend hours on editing some of my videos and they tend to do very well. I've gotten a pretty good following in the past 3 months and i'm happy with what i got but at this point I have no need to keep explaining myself on this. I know where i'm going and I know that I'm going to get there lol.

People try to find the technical and algorithmic ways to becoming noticed...not the case a lot of the times. The right things will happen to the right people.

I own a gaming channel and it does not take 5 minutes to just to edit, Sometimes it can be hard to commentate known you must be interested in that game and need to be entertaining to keep viewers entertained then once the recording part is done that is about 5 minutes recording sometimes more of being entertaining to keep the videos short I then look for decent outro music,Create a decent outro template that takes about 30 minutes.

So it all depends on the channel one of the biggest successful channels on you tube are gaming channels.

 

[Aaayron]

I know a lot of people getting famous instantly in Youtube due to personally knowing someone who's already popular. And they aren't good at it. While lots of amazingly talented 'tubers barely get noticed at all. That ain't fair yo. But really, like many people say, if your only goal in Youtube is to get famous, you're doing it wrong. You make videos because it's fun. Treat Youtube as a hobby, not an job opportunity.

 

[VanessaN]

You don't need to be successful to do Youtube.

I think the problem is a lot of people start Youtube with not enough self awareness and the wrong mindset.

There are those "I sing in the shower and sound really good, and people have said I sing well" people auditioning for Idol; and when they don't get recognized or chosen they mope on about what went wrong...

Then there are those "I sing in the shower and sound really good, and people have said I sing well" people auditioning for Idol; and when they don't get recognized or chosen they keep doing what they do because it's fun...

Then there are those "I sing in the shower and sound really good, and people have said I sing well" people auditioning for Idol; and when they don't get recognized or chosen they take voice lessons and improve themselves...

I completely agree... youtube can be for everyone, and everybody wins if winning for them is having fun, doing something they like and meeting new people. If they start youtube just wishing to be huge stars and have a fan base drooling all over everything they do, then a lot of people are gonna have a bad time. I do miss the old youtube days, when there was not all this fuss about gaining lots of money with it, and regret not starting my channel back then, when it really just for the community.

 

[Coda]

That last comment was pretty "stupid". the only thing correct in it was the word DUMB and it has nothing to do with the comments being of inferior value, it's because the comments are quite literally DUMB, they're not spoken but are in fact typed making them dumb (so using common sense it would suggest that all of YOUR comments are "dumb" as well.)

There's no such thing as a "bad" post, comment, video, song, piece of writing or work of art, it just depends on who's viewing it and what each INDIVIDUAL perceives it as.

The "bad" comments you're referring to are in fact of no lesser value than any comment of your own, or any of mine for that matter and that's the point. You may believe that you're "past" or "above" comments like that but to be fair the questions they're asking are quite valid, many of these users are newer to community as YOU once were.

Who's to say those questions asked are any less valid than mine (why are my comments being hit by the spam bot/algorithm, if none of them are overly offensive and don't contain what I'd perceive as spam.)

Just like their questions hundreds if not thousands of users have asked them before me and have all received similar answers, yet I still chose to ask individually (hoping for something none of the previous users got, A SOLUTION.)

So instead of ignorantly dismissing and insulting those asking questions, or labeling their questions as "dumb" (the irony of someone trying to call another stupid but using the incorrect word.) why not just answer the question to the best of your ability, I'm sure the user will appreciate it just as you will down the line when you've hit a bump in the road.[DOUBLEPOST=1394951639,1394947916][/DOUBLEPOST]

I'm not referring to the most popular youtubers, most of them get less than 5 millions views per video (which is quite good.) I'm referring to people who post a single video that receives 110-200-350 or even 500 million views. Most of these tend to be extremely short in length, contain NO editing and have a poor shaky camera.

A lot of them also tend to attemption some form of "humor".

And again your videos looking at some of them although I'm sure in total would take an hour or perhaps more to make are NOT what I'm referring to. I'm referring to videos that have litterally have HUNDREDS of effects on them, usually contained within less than 8 minutes.

These people spend literally days on each video, some even weeks or sometimes near a month and none of these people seem to get over a couple of thousand views per video (admittedly a lot of these seem to be game, film or music based but I'm referring to the smaller parties, not the large companies.)

I find that TALK videos in the last couple of years have become increasingly popular (the type of video you're making.) just people sitting there in front of the cam talking/ranting/bitching or "informing" others, most of these people pump put multiple videos a day or at least 1 every 2 days, the videos generally require LITTLE editing and a lot of the time is actually spent of REHEARSING and filming.

Again keep in mind I'm not suggesting these videos are inferior, I'm just expressing my belief that the people who are spending 110-300hours PURELY on their videos (the recording and editing.) are not the ones receiving millions of views per video and are rarely the most popular in their PARTICULAR FIELD.

yeah because a post asking " what game should i play on my channel? is really helping this community. i was just stating an opinion, so relax.

 

[ProfKranc]

Honestly, don't want to be a doomsday giver here, but I think the "golden age" of Youtube has passed. I mean, we all knew that, but its more of a reality now. I personally don't think I will ever make it on Youtube, but this doesn't deter me from putting my best efforts into a piece. I mean, its my passion. And the more people view it, the more people I get to entertain with my passion.

But its true, I remember back in school a guy came up to me (I wasn't even posting regularly on my channel yet) and was like "hey, you know a lot about youtube. How do I make money and get popular on Youtube? Its pretty easy right?"
I just looked at him and I was like ".....really?"
Youtube still has that vibe around it that it had from the start. It still seems amateur to people even though there is some brilliant content going up on the website. Its disappointing it doesn't seem more like a viable goal.

But that's what separates us. Those who are truly determined and enjoy making their content hopefully they will rise above the rest

 

[Rouge]

That last comment was pretty "stupid". the only thing correct in it was the word DUMB and it has nothing to do with the comments being of inferior value, it's because the comments are quite literally DUMB, they're not spoken but are in fact typed making them dumb (so using common sense it would suggest that all of YOUR comments are "dumb" as well.)

There's no such thing as a "bad" post, comment, video, song, piece of writing or work of art, it just depends on who's viewing it and what each INDIVIDUAL perceives it as.

The "bad" comments you're referring to are in fact of no lesser value than any comment of your own, or any of mine for that matter and that's the point. You may believe that you're "past" or "above" comments like that but to be fair the questions they're asking are quite valid, many of these users are newer to community as YOU once were.

Who's to say those questions asked are any less valid than mine (why are my comments being hit by the spam bot/algorithm, if none of them are overly offensive and don't contain what I'd perceive as spam.)

Just like their questions hundreds if not thousands of users have asked them before me and have all received similar answers, yet I still chose to ask individually (hoping for something none of the previous users got, A SOLUTION.)

So instead of ignorantly dismissing and insulting those asking questions, or labeling their questions as "dumb" (the irony of someone trying to call another stupid but using the incorrect word.) why not just answer the question to the best of your ability, I'm sure the user will appreciate it just as you will down the line when you've hit a bump in the road.[DOUBLEPOST=1394951639,1394947916][/DOUBLEPOST]

I'm not referring to the most popular youtubers, most of them get less than 5 millions views per video (which is quite good.) I'm referring to people who post a single video that receives 110-200-350 or even 500 million views. Most of these tend to be extremely short in length, contain NO editing and have a poor shaky camera.

A lot of them also tend to attemption some form of "humor".

And again your videos looking at some of them although I'm sure in total would take an hour or perhaps more to make are NOT what I'm referring to. I'm referring to videos that have litterally have HUNDREDS of effects on them, usually contained within less than 8 minutes.

These people spend literally days on each video, some even weeks or sometimes near a month and none of these people seem to get over a couple of thousand views per video (admittedly a lot of these seem to be game, film or music based but I'm referring to the smaller parties, not the large companies.)

I find that TALK videos in the last couple of years have become increasingly popular (the type of video you're making.) just people sitting there in front of the cam talking/ranting/bitching or "informing" others, most of these people pump put multiple videos a day or at least 1 every 2 days, the videos generally require LITTLE editing and a lot of the time is actually spent of REHEARSING and filming.

Again keep in mind I'm not suggesting these videos are inferior, I'm just expressing my belief that the people who are spending 110-300hours PURELY on their videos (the recording and editing.) are not the ones receiving millions of views per video and are rarely the most popular in their PARTICULAR FIELD.

I think you really get satisfaction out of proving everyone wrong, no matter what they say or do....

 

[BattleGeekPlus]

I do Youtube because I LOVE to entertain people, but I'm not going to lie either and say that I don't want income from it.

If you have something you're passionate about and have a chance to monetize it, why not?

I already knew coming in that success is definitely *not* going to be a overnight thing, and I admit that I have my bouts of discouragement whenever I get flamed or have low view counts/lose subscribers.

If people truly have the desire to be on youtube, then they will work on being entertaining, be comfortable in front of the camera, AND be prepared to endure the harshness of trolls and flaming. It's the people who have too soft of skin who don't make it out there.

So yeah, youtube isn't for everyone.

 

[Rouge]

I do Youtube because I LOVE to entertain people, but I'm not going to lie either and say that I don't want income from it.

If you have something you're passionate about and have a chance to monetize it, why not?

I already knew coming in that success is definitely *not* going to be a overnight thing, and I admit that I have my bouts of discouragement whenever I get flamed or have low view counts/lose subscribers.

If people truly have the desire to be on youtube, then they will work on being entertaining, be comfortable in front of the camera, AND be prepared to endure the harshness of trolls and flaming. It's the people who have too soft of skin who don't make it out there.

So yeah, youtube isn't for everyone.

I hate when people criticize for wanting to one day earn money from youtube...like it's not a disgusting request to earn money from a hobby!

 

[ChrisLRey]

I hate when people criticize for wanting to one day earn money from youtube...like it's not a disgusting request to earn money from a hobby!

I was going to say the exact same thing. Nothing wrong with going into something hoping for a opportunity to make a living off of it.

I see youtube as a growing community HOWEVER, the ones that can't handle it will be out. Oh yeah you will see a ton of channels for the time being but once august comes around, you will see a decrease in activity in their channels. If you're really commited, time will tell, and things will happen. I don't give up easily at all on what I really want so pretty much, don't expect me to go away ;P

 

[7dayspking]

I think you really get satisfaction out of proving everyone wrong, no matter what they say or do....

Sorry I'm not particularly active as you can probably tell now, That wasn't the purpose of my comment at all the person was right the comments are DUMB. The actual point of my comment was to suggest that maybe instead of insulting everyone who asks a question and labeling their questions are "stupid" or "dumb", why not just answer the question or move on?

I think the problem with the internet community in general is how volatile or cannibalistic it is, everyone starts out as a newer member in this community (or any community.) and most of these people are eager to learn and contribute to the community but within only a few short moments of trying to learn something by ASKING QUESTIONS they're almost instantly put down and pushed beneath people who have been in the community longer because for whatever reason they forget being in the same situation earlier on.

It's a vicious cycle because these people new to the community then become aggravated and later down the track put other new members down because they've got a false sense of entitlement just because they're more familiar with how ****** the community is and they've been there longer.

So basically Everyone who's been part of any internet community for more than a short period consciously try to put themselves above others who they believe are less experienced just to gain some form of self gratification, that guy I was responding to was displaying this very behaviour.

He believed he was above and beyond "dumb" questions like the one he was replying to, All I'm asking is that if you're not going to contribute something helpful or don't believe it's worth the time and effort DON'T PUT THE EFFORT IT, why focus energy on doing something both offensive and self-destructive it's a waste of everyone's time.[DOUBLEPOST=1396105421,1396105017][/DOUBLEPOST]

I do Youtube because I LOVE to entertain people, but I'm not going to lie either and say that I don't want income from it.

If you have something you're passionate about and have a chance to monetize it, why not?

I already knew coming in that success is definitely *not* going to be a overnight thing, and I admit that I have my bouts of discouragement whenever I get flamed or have low view counts/lose subscribers.

If people truly have the desire to be on youtube, then they will work on being entertaining, be comfortable in front of the camera, AND be prepared to endure the harshness of trolls and flaming. It's the people who have too soft of skin who don't make it out there.

So yeah, youtube isn't for everyone.

What about the youtubers who don't sit in front of a camera every video, what if they believe what they're offering straight up is already entertaining.

The value of art or the quality/qualities of art is not decide by ANY single person, not even the artist. The value of art is decided over and over again by EACH AND EVERY individual who views it, what you might not perceive as entertaining might provide another with ultimate joy or even sometimes strong feelings of sorrow (which can sometimes be a beautiful thing sometimes.)[DOUBLEPOST=1396106960][/DOUBLEPOST]

I think thats questionable about everyone being able to do it. Like there are some people who have been Youtub'in it for near enough to 3-5 years and would only gain a mere 40 subs....which to me kind of shows what is going down...

SUBSCRIBERS are not a reflection of quality, they're a reflection of either how well something was marketed or how active users who viewed were.

It all depends on the viewers and how they react to something, sometimes the reason things don't gain popularity is because THE RIGHT PEOPLE AREN'T FINDING IT but there is always something you can bank on, no matter what you make it's likely that there'll be SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE that will have what they perceive as a positive reaction to the material (even if it makes them sad, it's the reaction they were looking for.)

So no these people have not necessarily failed and the reason they're not getting subscribers (which isn't even necessarily the ultimate goal.) isn't because they're releasing inferior content, it's either just not appealing to the audience it's getting to OR it's been lost in the vast infinity or mysterious vortex that claims an untold number of other things on youtube.

I'll give you an example, Funeral doom metal band "ahab" does not appeal to everyone but they arguably have one of the MOST DEDICATED fan bases I've seen and although the band doesn't necessarily have a large number of record sales or internet viewers they've got a surprisingly large number of people who at least have heard of the band because of this dedicated fan base.

So my point is the number of subscribers or sales you get does NOT reflect the quality, all forms of art can be considered of equal quality (unless you've got an equation to prove otherwise.) but what one gains from art is up to the individual NOT ONE PERSON WHO BELIEVE'S THEY'RE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY ON WHAT'S GOOD AND WHAT'S NOT.