We were blind - absolute best way to gain subscribers

[Technomania]

Here is my take on getting new subscribers. When you put out a video you're transmitting a message to the world. If that message is what people are looking for they will watch your video. If people like that messages you're putting out, they will subscribe.

***When I use the word "you" I'm not specifically pointing at YOU, but more in the generic sense. Don't take this as me bashing YOU specifically.****

Nobody is going to care if you are "unique" or "being you." As I've gotten older I've realized people just don't care about you. If you think about it I'm just another random human running round on Earth. I'm not much different than anyone else. The only thing people care about is the message. They only care about what you have to offer. If they like your stuff, they will watch it. It doesn't matter if you pretending to be someone else, being a robot, or whatever else you could be. It all comes down to the message and the message has to be clear with little noise.

For example, lets say I want to be entertained. Lets say I stumble upon Pewdiepie's channel. I watch a video and it makes me laugh, I received the message I wanted. If I watch a couple more and I'm still laughing, I'll subscribe. When he stops being funny or if his message changes enough to the point I don't want to hear it anymore, I'll unsubscribe. I'm not a fan of PewDiepie and he doesn't quite target my demographics. But when I objectively look at his stuff, I think he does very good at what he does and executes his message very well. I'm not surprised at all with the following that he has.

This also applies to other people you'll deal with in life. Recently I've been dealing with buying a car. For the most part, I don't care about car salesmen. I don't want to hear their life story or their sob stories. I don't care if there are being real or putting on an act. I listen to them because I want to buy car. The same thing applies with videos. People watch because there is something they want to get out of it.

I'm assuming you're a great person and all, but just because you like you doesn't mean other people will like you too. My advise is to put out content that people want to watch, but be original and/or better at it. If someone else is saying the same thing your saying but doing a better job at it, why would they bother watching your stuff?

no thats not it, the part about being original does not help very much. There are hundreds of bloggers who share stories and yet even they are finding views to be difficult. just being original in anything will not help, being a fan then sharing what you like its better then going in blind. when i said going in blind you are basically not showing anyone who you are has a human so it makes people uncomfortable expectedly how the internet works. thats why being a fan of something is a good way to break the ice its how minecraft became popular because people can talk about things the games has to offer, even on GTA games break the ice and so on.

 

[Harry Of All Trades]

no thats not it, the part about being original does not help very much. There are hundreds of bloggers who share stories and yet even they are finding views to be difficult. just being original in anything will not help, being a fan then sharing what you like its better then going in blind.

Yes, there are a lot of bloggers out there. Many of just contributors to the noise of the Internet and never get above the noise floor. Back to my original argument, why would I read their stuff unless they have something to offer me?

when i said going in blind you are basically not showing anyone who you are has a human so it makes people uncomfortable expectedly how the internet works. thats why being a fan of something is a good way to break the ice its how minecraft became popular because people can talk about things the games has to offer, even on GTA games break the ice and so on.

I don't know what you are talking about here. Not showing people I'm a human making people uncomfortable which has something to do about how the Internet works? You'll have to clarify that for me.

Break the ice on what exactly?

I'm big fan of Zelda games. No mater how much of a fan I am, putting on green hat and holding up some gold triangles in front of a camera will never get me any views or subscribers. Nobody wants to watch that. Nobody cares that I'm I fan. What am I providing other than my ability to wear a silly green hat?

 

[Technomania]

Yes, there are a lot of bloggers out there. Many of just contributors to the noise of the Internet and never get above the noise floor. Back to my original argument, why would I read their stuff unless they have something to offer me?



I don't know what you are talking about here. Not showing people I'm a human making people uncomfortable which has something to do about how the Internet works? You'll have to clarify that for me.

Break the ice on what exactly?

I'm big fan of Zelda games. No mater how much of a fan I am, putting on green hat and holding up some gold triangles in front of a camera will never get me any views or subscribers. Nobody wants to watch that. Nobody cares that I'm I fan. What am I providing other than my ability to wear a silly green hat?

1. just like i posted, you a fan for that stuff. everything has a section that people like, people like tech, people like games, people like cooking etc. its not about gaining or trying to be the better person its about the experience and enjoyment. one person told me that games do that as well, where games dont give benefits just experience and enjoyment.

2. its how the internet works theres no clear answer like brains no one knows how brains works.

3. its breaking the ice of not having a topic, if you ever tried to talk to someone on skype, chat room, outside, etc then you know it can be hard to talk about stuff to a stranger. games give us reason to talk about stuff and easier conversations on personal stuff when games give reference on possible life events.

4. nope this is where you are wrong, just look at unknown minecraft channels you'll see a lot of views but less subscribers (maybe more), if that does not prove anything then look at zelda related channels more views, if both are not your style then look for your favorite you'll see that people will watch it. the only reason they subscribe its because they are fans who like the same things, that rare jewel in youtube.

dont believe me look at this guy he has 120+ views out of 8 subscribers because he is a fan for the legend of zelda series.

 

[MattyGreen]

From what I see, people subscribe because of the person behind the video. If you're a fan of say Blizzard for example, you go subscribe to Blizzard or watch Blizzard videos, you don't go subscribe to fan of Blizzard because you're a fan of them as well. In my eyes that makes no sense. Now look at someone like Totalbiscuit. I subscribe to him because I'm a 'fan' of his, I'm not a fan however of all the games he does first impressions on. So therefore he has subscribers because people like him, not because they're a fan of one game he covered. You bring up PewDiePie, are all his subscribers fans of the games he plays. If you answer yes then are all his 30 million plus subscribers fans of the exact same games that he plays because if so then it's amazing that 30 million people are fans of exactly the same games. As for the video above, he's done one video on Zelda and the other on Baby Metal. That's showing diversity and drawing people to see him play whatever he plays, not because he's a fan of Zelda. Yeah sure a few people will like Zelda that watched it but not everyone watched it because they were a fan of one particular game.

I agree with the other statements above that you can love what you make and think that you're the greatest Youtuber ever, you could be the biggest fan of what you make and be completely obsessed with yourself but does that mean others will think the same of you? No, not at all. One of the things I learnt from promotion lessons in college is that no one cares about what you have to say. Not because they're dicks or because you're in the wrong but because they don't have a reason to care. The job of promotion is to make them care and in YT terms, give them a reason to subscribe. If you want to be a fan of something and make fan content then go for it, nothing wrong with that at all but it's not going to make your subscriber base blow up unless you're lucky. Make what you want to watch and too a high standard, promote as much as you can without spamming and just learn as you go. May sound naive but no one has the secret to the best way to get subscribers, there's too may variables.

 

[Technomania]

if you guys are so confident on your statements then why didnt you made a thread about it. i am sure there are hundreds of people willing to read your ideas on "how to get better subscribers" even more willing to read about promotion that is taught on college people. just remember its not your responsibility to make subscribers happy that also goes with people who thinks they can blash on other people's threads.

 

[Jukenut]

if you guys are so confident on your statements then why didnt you made a thread about it. i am sure there are hundreds of people willing to read your ideas on "how to get better subscribers" even more willing to read about promotion that is taught on college people. just remember its not your responsibility to make subscribers happy that also goes with people who thinks they can blash on other people's threads.

We are not bashing on your thread. We are just warning people who might read your opinion, and mostly they are wrong. And to your previous statement. I propaply followed pewdiepie way before you did, way before he even hit the 100,000 mark. He didnt have bad equipment then, he got good equipment fairly quickly. See his older videos. How do you answer to that?

Also, don't even mention Pewdiepie, even if he did have s****y stuff all the way to 10 mil subs. Why? Nobody will likely become the next Pewdiepie, so there is no use putting him as an example

 

[Technomania]

We are not bashing on your thread. We are just warning people who might read your opinion, and mostly they are wrong. And to your previous statement. I propaply followed pewdiepie way before you did, way before he even hit the 100,000 mark. He didnt have bad equipment then, he got good equipment fairly quickly. See his older videos. How do you answer to that?

fine look at this

told you, you dont need fancy equipment

 

[Jukenut]

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fine look at this



told you, you dont need fancy equipment

Sigh. When YouTube just started (almost 10 years ago), almost everyone was using crappy equipment. But now, NOW the standards are higher. It's a "dog eat dog" website now. Try this, make your videos with s****y equipment. Go ahead. Get back to me when you reach 50 subs.

Honestly, it looks like you just started your channel, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. I have been creating videos for years, I have several channels that failed over the years and I learned from my mistakes

Anyways, if your head is still thick like a brick wall, fine. I am done trying to give reasons. Do what you want. Good luck.

 

[MattyGreen]

if you guys are so confident on your statements then why didnt you made a thread about it. i am sure there are hundreds of people willing to read your ideas on "how to get better subscribers" even more willing to read about promotion that is taught on college people. just remember its not your responsibility to make subscribers happy that also goes with people who thinks they can blash on other people's threads.

Stating an opinion isn't bashing you or your thread, I'm sorry if you think that. And I'm sure there are hundreds of people who'd like to read a thread about "how to get better subscribers" as you put it and maybe there are even more that are "willing to read about promotion that is taught on college people." as you also previously stated. Would I write that thread? No... and why wouldn't I? Because I'm not going to pretend to know the "absolute best way to gain subscribers". All I can state is what I know and that is what I also previously stated: "no one cares about what you have to say. Not because they're dicks or because you're in the wrong but because they don't have a reason to care". Do I have the answers to make them care. No and I never claimed too because I'm not going to make ambitious statements about things that people want to know and by consequence lead them down a path that could result in failure. I can tell you how to play guitar because that's what I know, I can also tell you that you need to make people care about your videos because common sense. I can't however give people the answer to questions that I do not know so therefore I won't make paper thin statements based on a unproved theory on how people can succeed. Like I said my advice is do what you enjoy and then at worst you had fun.

As for those Smosh videos. If you want to make videos in a, quite frankly, s****y looking resolution in 2015 (a full 10 years after their first video) then go for it. If you think quality isn't important now then I personally just think you're ignorant to the HD age. You can make low quality videos all you like, your choice and I won't have any issue with that but don't spread statements that just aren't true because it's unfair to aspiring YouTubers who, by no fault of their own, don't know what the standards on YouTube are. This should be a place where we encourage quality YouTube videos to be created and help people make the best videos they can and advice like 'quality doesn't matter' is just false information.