Using the Content ID system to your advantage

leburn98

leburn98

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I was discussing with a few YouTubers about the Content ID system. Personally my gaming channel has not been hit with any Content ID matches since this all started. I do a mix of VLOGs, random commentaries and LPs.

Anyways, the question came up about possible solutions to the 'Nintendo' problem. As many of you in the gaming community may be aware, Nintendo is one of the biggest offenders regarding claims against monetized videos. It was because of this that I came up with something that may work in theory.

The first thing to be clear is I don't know how YouTube handles a video with multiple claimants. Example: Let's say we LP Super Smash Bros. U. In the video we have a match between Mario, Link, Sonic, and Mega Man. In the video we have three separate companies who could all put in a claim: Nintendo, SEGA and Capcom. So for arguments sake, let's say all three companies do issue a claim and all three want to monetize my video. Do all three share the revenue three ways? If the answer is yes, read on.

So if the above is true and multiple claimants each get a piece of the pie, in theory could a YouTube channel not:
  • Make a secondary YouTube account and sign up to the Content ID system
  • Submit the intro, logo, etc. that is consistently in all videos (both audio and video)
  • Set all positive Content ID matches to monetize
Why do this? It's simple. All videos on your main channel will now be claimed and monetize by the secondary channel. Furthermore, any other videos (a Nintendo-based LP for instance) can now be shared between you and the claimant. On the main channel you would simply acknowledge the claim from yourself.

Is this something that could work and is it potentially feasible? I would like to hear your opinions on this.
 
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Sorry, nice try but Nintendo would be the beneficiary of 100% of the funds. When you upload to the 2nd channel, Nintendo (or whoever) would claim those as well.
 
markkaz said:
When you upload to the 2nd channel, Nintendo (or whoever) would claim those as well.
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I think you misunderstood me regarding the 2nd channel. The 2nd channel in my example would be strictly used as the Content ID account for the legally owned content: the Intro of every video for example. No third party content would be on this 2nd channel.

markkaz said:
Sorry, nice try but Nintendo would be the beneficiary of 100% of the funds.
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So you are telling me (not saying you are wrong) that if someone uploaded a Top 5 Movie Trailers video that contained five 2-minute trailers containing content from MGM, Fox, Sony, Warner Bros. and Universal, only one of the 5 would be able to make a claim? How does that make any legal sense :).
 
leburn98 said:
...only one of the 5 would be able to make a claim? How does that make any legal sense :).
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To be honest, I don't know what are the current arrangements as far as shared revenue. I know that in the past, when a channel has multiple song snippets, only one is shown as 'Buy On iTunes' alongside the video.
 
Content ID is only available to big right holders. YouTube will not give you access to Content ID for protecting a 15 Sec intro that is only uploaded to your own Channel.


Content ID acceptance is based on an evaluation of each applicant's actual need for the tools. Applicants must be able to provide evidence of the copyrighted content for which they control exclusive rights.

Content ID will match a user's reference content against every upload to YouTube. Therefore, applicants must have the exclusive rights to the material that is evaluated. Common examples of items that may not be exclusive to individuals include:

  • mashups, “best of”s, compilations, and remixes of other works
  • video gameplay, software visuals, trailers
  • unlicensed music and video
  • music or video that was licensed, but without exclusivity
  • recordings of performances (including concerts, events, speeches, shows)


If accepted to use the Content ID tools, applicants will be required to complete an agreement explicitly stating that only content with exclusive rights can be used as references. Additionally, accepted applicants will need to provide the geographic locations of exclusive ownership, if not worldwide.

support.google.com/youtube/answer/1311402?hl=en
 
No you cannot do that, you need to own exclusive rights to any material you submit into the Content ID database.
 
Gabriel said:
No you cannot do that, you need to own exclusive rights to any material you submit into the Content ID database.
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And he would own the exclusive rights, assuming the intro was designed by him and content therein owned by him. Technically this could actually work, however it is a little underhanded and potentially dangerous. Afterall, the user would then be claiming that the intro is worth 50% revenue (assuming one other claimant).

DevCodeOne has the correct answer in that you will never get into the ContentID system. I've been trying for well over a year and no luck yet. If however you could get into it, you could certainly claim the intro content in that way, yes. Though it's the audio that is matched, not so much the video as that matching is s***e still.

This is no different in theory from Nintendo loading the coin pickup sound into ContentID and flagging videos, hijacking their entire revenue stream because of a half second sound effect.

You'll never get into ContentID though, so I wouldn't bother putting much thought to it.
 
Tarmack said:
This is no different in theory from Nintendo loading the coin pickup sound into ContentID and flagging videos, hijacking their entire revenue stream because of a half second sound effect.
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Ruh, roh. I used some video game sound effects in one of my videos.
Oh well, if they claim it, fine. Hopefully, I don't get a copyright strike.
 
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