The desperate world of YouTube wannabes

The problem is that no normal YouTuber is going to make it big. You have to push boundaries, be different and often shock people to get anywhere on the platform. The car community I am a part of on YouTube is largely void from that because of the genre, other than the people swinging their financial nuts around and acting high and mighty, forgetting where they came from.

I think to an extent everyone who is serious about their craft is a wannabe. We all want to make it big. I put a goal of 10K subscribers forward for my own channel instance, hardly big, but given where I am right now (5.3K) still a tall order. But I refuse to sell my soul to get big. I transitioned in the hobbyist world and have been there for the past year and a half. I am fine where I am at. It would be nice to eventually make it to 10K though!
 
I also feel as if most people don’t realize that youtube is a hobby for like 90% of the platform.

Like not every minor league baseball player is going to make it big unless they’re good. Although they’ll still have fun doing it.


I feel that smaller youtubers need to act humble. Do your best, and take what you get with happiness. If you don’t do that then you’re just going to be disappointed.
 
TheDutchTexan said:
The problem is that no normal YouTuber is going to make it big. You have to push boundaries, be different and often shock people to get anywhere on the platform. The car community I am a part of on YouTube is largely void from that because of the genre, other than the people swinging their financial nuts around and acting high and mighty, forgetting where they came from.

I think to an extent everyone who is serious about their craft is a wannabe. We all want to make it big. I put a goal of 10K subscribers forward for my own channel instance, hardly big, but given where I am right now (5.3K) still a tall order. But I refuse to sell my soul to get big. I transitioned in the hobbyist world and have been there for the past year and a half. I am fine where I am at. It would be nice to eventually make it to 10K though!
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I suppose the problem then is that people want to make it big when they should be satisfied with being sizable. to be completely honest currently at most if I hit 100 subs I'd be completely satisfied with where I am. any more than thats just a bonus for me. at most i'd never want my channel to be bigger than 5k because I imagine it would be an absolute nightmare to manage and monitor and I like the fact that I can be personal with people...if your going into this with the aspriation to be the biggest channel on youtube your probably going into youtube with the wrong mentality...
 
TYTD said:
I suppose the problem then is that people want to make it big when they should be satisfied with being sizable. to be completely honest currently at most if I hit 100 subs I'd be completely satisfied with where I am. any more than thats just a bonus for me. at most i'd never want my channel to be bigger than 5k because I imagine it would be an absolute nightmare to manage and monitor and I like the fact that I can be personal with people...if your going into this with the aspriation to be the biggest channel on youtube your probably going into youtube with the wrong mentality...
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It's quite easy to manage at 5K from my perspective. It is only sometimes where I can't keep up with comments. But I produce 1-3 videos a month usually, so there are plenty of days where I don't get any comments at all. I think once you hit 100K+ it becomes not doable. 10K I assume is still very manageable.
 
Crown said:
The title of the thread is the headline of an article in the media about how the lure of fame and fortune drives some people to desperation and even violence.

A brief summary of the examples cited in the article:

For every millionaire PewDiePie or Logan Paul, there are a thousand frustrated YouTubers desperately trying to get more views. Some aspiring vloggers pushing themselves to make increasingly outrageous, and sometimes disturbing, videos which have resulted in criminal charges.


Last month, Monalisa Perez was jailed for six months for shooting her boyfriend, 22-year-old Pedro Ruiz III, in the chest for a YouTube video. Ruiz died after bullet penetrated an encyclopedia he was holding for the stunt.

Mike Martin, who ran the popular YouTube channel DaddyoFive, lost custody of his children after posting multiple clips of him 'pranking' his two young kids. Videos include Martin convincing son Cody he had been adopted out to another family, pushing him and bloodying his nose. Cody often ended up red faced, crying, screaming, or throwing things out of frustration, once even threatening to kill himself. In May last year, Rose Hall, the biological mother of Mike Martin's two youngest children, Cody, nine, and Emma, 12, was granted custody of the kids.

In 2015, Sam and Nia Rader , from Wills Point, Texas, made headlines when they were accused of faking a miscarriage.

California shooter Nasim Aghdam was an established YouTuber posting militant Vegan videos, bizarre 'parody' clips, and angry rants about YouTube policies. On Tuesday, that fury boiled over and Aghdam shot a man and two women with a handgun when she stormed YouTube 's headquarters in San Bruno.

Source of full article:


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What drives people to these extremes? Are people really that desperate for views and subs?!

Thoughts?
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This is insane. I didn't even know about any of these. :(
I try to distance myself from any negative news... When I do hear about them (I overheard the San Bruno shooting because I was at work at the time, about 30 minutes away from the shooting), I try not to overthink because I don't want to affect me negatively. I do think these issues shouldn't even happen in the first place. I believe some people are crazier than others. There are billions of people in the world, and it's hard to think that all of us are sane. And some of these billions have a YouTube channel, so it's not even a surprise to me. I just want all of the crimes to stop, but if it were that easy, all of it would've been long gone.
 
I think it all stems from the mindset that others want to imitate or copy someone and be like them. At the end of the day, they are just wannabes' that try to be "the next big thing". I mean, me personally I tried doing things for views or duplicate an idea of some kind; but it never worked out for me so I stopped.

I think it's just a natural part of the whole YouTube game and for other things as well. It's not new it's been happening for awhile now (maybe even longer). I don't think anyone is going to not think this, that's my opinion. Look at me though, I'm trying to work on my channel myself without the things you mentioned here.
 
Youtube is a platform controlled by people looking after their OWN interests. YES i can blame youtube for driving people to extremes with their horrible Algorithm Bot that seriously makes 0 sense. We all have seen it and youtube its constantly called out due to their underlying practices like not telling us how REALLY the sub button worked until recently.
How The LGBT community was flagged as inappropriate due to the bot. Did you guys ever consider how many channels got destroyed due to this "error" or did you all continue thinking once they fixed the problem all the effected channels were happy? If you did..Guess what... YOU are part of the problem. Alot of channels were never able to recover because in the end what drives views is suggested videos and suggested videos are controlled by THE BOT!.
What about trending? why do we ALWAYS SEE TALK SHOWS WE DONT GIVE A s**t ABOUT? Why do they get "special brand deals" to promote talk shows eternally on trending? Because that's what they do...they Really are not trending, they paid youtube to put them on trending.. so please...f**k off with youtube is innocent because it is not.

Noone should go on and shoot the place up...youre a monster and deserve nothing better than you're own death if you deide shooting random workers is the solution.
she was provably aiming at the CEOs wish is what a smart crazy person would of done and still you should not kill anyone over youtube.

I believe in an eye for an eye, you destroy someone's live with you're actions then i think the person who took the actions should personally fix who ever lives they destroyed or somehow drestroy thats personals lively hood in exchange so they can know what are the consequences of their actions.Youtube is big...but dont give me that bs they dont know what they are doing, they perfectly know the pros and cons of every single update they do WITHOUT TELLING US.
 
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That's a great click-able title! News organizations are going to find examples to create any narrative that they desire in order to 'get views' as well.

The opening paragraph is rather presumptuous though.
'Child abuse, lies and MURDER': Inside the desperate world of YouTube wannabes who think they will become overnight stars and millionaires like Logan Paul and PewDiePie but end up ruining their lives with extreme steps to boost followers"

While some seek fame, most are just trying to earn a living like everybody else. Some make bad decisions though while the vast majority of YouTubers are sane.
 
markkaz said:
That's a great click-able title! News organizations are going to find examples to create any narrative that they desire in order to 'get views' as well.

The opening paragraph is rather presumptuous though.
'Child abuse, lies and MURDER': Inside the desperate world of YouTube wannabes who think they will become overnight stars and millionaires like Logan Paul and PewDiePie but end up ruining their lives with extreme steps to boost followers"

While some seek fame, most are just trying to earn a living like everybody else. Some make bad decisions though while the vast majority of YouTubers are sane.
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Wish is why my post above this one, somepeople like me ar enot after fame but after an option to the mind numming 40 hours a week underpaid jobs. That is what keeps me going and keep me awake at night, the Hope and dream of being my OWN boss and self sufficient and feel the pride that saying " i did this" comes with.But that simple honest dream can be immpossible to reach.

youtube has a sad side that always worry me...people say as long as you post you will grow but the reality is you can post for YEARS and get no progress at all, knowing that you just wasted X amount of years putting so much energy into this.
 
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Then don't do it. YouTube is a business. It does not have your best interests at heart. It never has and it never will. It has it's own best interests and the interests of its shareholders at heart. It doesn't care if you're happy, it doesn't care if you make money, it doesn't care if you stay or if you leave. It cares what makes YouTube money. You are using their platform for free and expecting to be able to tell them what to do. It doesn't work that way. Anyone who doesn't understand the fundamentals of business has problems.
 
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