The Basic Truth About Networks

Most of these things are pretty obvious :P If an employee is paid $20 an hour then a network is not going to let that person work with you on your channel unless you earn them atleast that amount.

I recommend Fullscreen regularly because they have some good tools, tools that can help you grow but only if you choose to use them and spend time on time.

They may have not spend any time per-say on your channel individually but you can bet that each of those tools took alot of wages/ hours to create.
Also with the music libraries, I know the pricing structures of the music libraries they use and in their case, if you are giving them any less than around $10 then you are getting a good deal as they are likely spending more on you than you are making for them.

So.. you may not see a "visual" effort but there definitely is one, the 10+ person development team creating all those tools for you to use (not their fault if you don't use them) and the expenses on music/ sound effects plus having to pay the sales people that sell the Gorilla campaigns.
 
The reason I joined was because I wasn't able to use adsense anymore because of a blogger site I had a while back. Google rejected my appeal.

So joining a network was really my only option if I wanted to make any money off youtube. :P
 
Shane.C said:
Most of these things are pretty obvious :p If an employee is paid $20 an hour then a network is not going to let that person work with you on your channel unless you earn them atleast that amount.

I recommend Fullscreen regularly because they have some good tools, tools that can help you grow but only if you choose to use them and spend time on time.

They may have not spend any time per-say on your channel individually but you can bet that each of those tools took alot of wages/ hours to create.
Also with the music libraries, I know the pricing structures of the music libraries they use and in their case, if you are giving them any less than around $10 then you are getting a good deal as they are likely spending more on you than you are making for them.

So.. you may not see a "visual" effort but there definitely is one, the 10+ person development team creating all those tools for you to use (not their fault if you don't use them) and the expenses on music/ sound effects plus having to pay the sales people that sell the Gorilla campaigns.
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You also need to think of if you really need those tools they are providing, the dashboard upgrades are cool in all but do you really need them more then the defualt ones? Also you have to incorpirate the 45% share revenue that goes initially to google then the 30+% that goes to network for there "hard work", if you are a gamer it is more suitable to join a network for the copyright and soo on. Music you could ask artists on soundcloud if you can use there music royality free I know youtubers like vlogger Ben Brown who got Odesza to allow him a few songs. Aswell as say O2L they have a freindship with Hoodie allen and can use certain songs.

Networks are mostly for those creators who aren't independent enough to run a channel on there own, I say keep the 65% you get from adsense then the 25-30% you get from networks (google 45% + 70-30% from networks) If you become big you could negotiate deals with networks to raise your shares too even 90/10 but only if you are creating them enough revenue to allow it.

Btw all those people talking about how networks get you soo much tv,branded, and soo on that is bs too the 90% of youtubers the media doesn't care about those are made for the people you see on the billboards all around the world (bethany mota, pewdiepie...) companys don't care for small creators.
 
CoolMoo5 said:
@Karac Cano Interesting you bring up Bethany Mota. She is not in a network at all and look where she is at now. . .
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She is repped by youtube lol but she would fall under style haul if she did need networks, which most people don't if you know how to run it yourself and deal with the business of aspects too.
 
Karac Cano said:
even 90/10
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You can be sure that the biggest of channels are not on less than 100% :P

But as I said, for small channels it is not a matter of not knowing how to manage a business it is a matter of getting more for less.
As in features for giving a few dollars to a network that would cost multiple times the price as an independent.
 
Moe Othman said:
Hey Everyone,

I dont want to write a huge essay, so i will summarize this as much as i can.
A lot of you are asking questions about whether joining a network is worth it, what are the disadvantages and advantages etc.

Advantages - They can help you with 3rd party claims, they can provide you with small apps that can help you find free music/sound effects to use, etc.

Disadvnatages - They take a pretty large amount of your revenue in exchange.

Now here's the big issue, A LOT of people think networks will help their channel grow, the truth of the matter is, they won't.

Don't get me wrong, the networks will provide you with some stuff to help your journey, but the stuff they help you with can be obtained even without their help. For example, some networks will provide you with Royalty Free Music or an Editing program, but you can obtain these things easily on your own without any problems.

The big throw off here is that Networks Only advertise their biggest/most successful creators. (As if they actually needed it..) They won't actually help your channel by sharing your content, even if it's really good. Their main goal is to obtain more revenue, thats it. It's a company, and their main focus is reeling in the cash.

The big question you have to ask yourself is, "Is the Revenue split/% that they are taking from me, equal or worth to what they are supplying/offering me?"

If that answer is "No", either dont join a network or end your contract when possible.

Because let's be honest, unless you're pretty much famous, networks really dont care about actually helping you.

I'm with a very known network at the moment, and my contract ends in a month, and i plan to leave the network. They have been taking a % of my revenue for over a year, and i practically have not obtained anything from them in return.


Long story short, unless you're really popular (at least 100k subs), networks aren't really worth it.
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Thanks for posting this!
 
Karac Cano said:
She is repped by youtube lol but she would fall under style haul if she did need networks, which most people don't if you know how to run it yourself and deal with the business of aspects too.
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Actually she is not "repped" by YouTube in any way. However, YouTube did approach her and with them she did an advertising campaign and her face was on billboards, signs and TV ads and such. But Bethany does have a team a managers that dont work for youtube. The thing people don't think about is pretty much every Youtuber with over a million subs has a manager. Even channels with a few hundred thousand subs or less often have managers. Networks can often provide management services. The best known networks that do this areFullscreen and bigframe. Some examples is o2l have a manager thorough Fullscren and Tyler Oakley has a manager through Big Frame. Networks can provide you a reliable manager that knows a lot about the business of online video.
Here is link and it mentions Bethanys management team. Add a w cause I can't post links.

ww.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/business/media/hollywoods-old-time-star-makers-are-swooping-in-on-youtubes-party.html[DOUBLEPOST=1412480654,1412480243][/DOUBLEPOST]Even if doesn't seem that way VERY FEW (I can't think of any) YouTubers with over a million subs handle all the buiness aspects completely by themselves. They all have managers or at the very least a family member like their parents to help with business decisions.
 
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