Process of video recording, editing, uploading

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Shlanga

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How do you people go about this one? Which way are you using?

I thought I'll start off with Adobe Premiere, as my roommate has it for editing his filmed videos and absolutely loves it, but he's been working with it for at least 4 years. I see a lot of you are using Sony Vegas - now is this one easier to understand, more comfortable to use for videos that are being uploaded to YouTube?

Also, after you record something - let's say a gameplay video with commentary - you don't upload it straight away, because 1min of, at least for me, comes out to over 1GB. How do you compress these videos - with Vegas or use something different, like VirtualDub? Also, is it possible to keep HD - 720p or 1080p for the videos that are being compressed? I'm assuming there might be an option for this in the software itself, when choosing how compressed you want it...
 
If I were you, I'd just bite in the sour apple and pay for a software.
I, myself use Sony Vegas Pro 11. I'm super happy with it. :)
 
Shlanga said:
How do you people go about this one? Which way are you using?

I thought I'll start off with Adobe Premiere, as my roommate has it for editing his filmed videos and absolutely loves it, but he's been working with it for at least 4 years. I see a lot of you are using Sony Vegas - now is this one easier to understand, more comfortable to use for videos that are being uploaded to YouTube?

Also, after you record something - let's say a gameplay video with commentary - you don't upload it straight away, because 1min of, at least for me, comes out to over 1GB. How do you compress these videos - with Vegas or use something different, like VirtualDub? Also, is it possible to keep HD - 720p or 1080p for the videos that are being compressed? I'm assuming there might be an option for this in the software itself, when choosing how compressed you want it...
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If you are using a mac, Final Cut Pro is pretty much the ultimate in video editing, on a PC, most high end editing is done through Sony Vegas.

I would start there.

That being said, if you don't want to pay money for software, using something as simple as windows movie maker will re-encode videos and compress them just fine.

And yes you can keep your HD settings. It all just matters on what render settings you use (ie what codec, resolution, and bitrate) to determine quality. Keep in mind higher quality videos take longer to render, and with a slow PC this can mean hours if not days with a long 1080p video.
 
I don't mind buying a software, as I'm looking at the big picture here and this will pay off in the long run, I feel. I'm going to go with Sony Vegas Pro 11 then, if there's no problem to take 20GB video from Fraps and compress it keeping most of the quality.

Now about rendering: I'm currently working on my laptop (8GB SAMSUNG 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3, Quad Core i7-3610QM (2.30GHz) 6MB, GeForce® GT 650M - 1.0GB DDR5, INTEL® 330 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s) - I will stay with this for a while now before I switch to a more powerful stationary machine, hopefully it'll carry out at least 720p.
 
It all depends on what quality you are referring to.. If you are just trying to upload to youtube, everything uploaded to youtube is already re-encoded so there is no need to have higher quality than what is offered by their codec.

I use sony vegas to render to .mp4 with sony avc codec using 720p resolution and a 10Mbps bitrate (this can be lowered for faster renders)

For recommended render settings by youtube go here:
http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/static.py?hl=en&topic=1728588&guide=1728585&page=guide.cs
http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/static.py?hl=en&topic=1728573&guide=1728585&page=guide.cs

In fact that whole page is full of useful information if you are trying to figure out the best way to render your videos.

The only thing I don't agree with is rendering 60fps footage to 60fps again and uploading. Youtube renders at max 30fps so I see no reason to render above 30fps. In order to render at 60fps you have twice the amount of frames and the encoding will take much longer.
 
A quick question - I'm experimenting with recording videos and making some from scratch, and half of them turn out to not be widescreen, therefore there are black bars on the side when uploaded to YouTube.

What resolution do you people use most of the time? I've also tried with friend's Premiere - rendered and exported to the best quality of 1080p, with YouTube preset offered there, but it came out not as wide as needed to be for YouTube - what's up with that?
 
black bars on the side is typically a 4:3 ratio. That's fine to use but the typical HD resolutions are 720p and 1080p (1280 x 720 and 1920 x 1080), these are 16:9 resolutions. Another relatively common widescreen resolution are ones that fit 16:10 ratio.
 
oTradeMark said:
black bars on the side is typically a 4:3 ratio. That's fine to use but the typical HD resolutions are 720p and 1080p (1280 x 720 and 1920 x 1080), these are 16:9 resolutions. Another relatively common widescreen resolution are ones that fit 16:10 ratio.
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Yeah, we'll that's kind of the thing - I've exported the video in YouTube HD 1080p, but it came out 4:3. Is that normal? Can 4:3 be 1080p? I'm trying to figure out how to turn the video into 16:9 on Premiere at the moment.
 
If your raw footage is 4:3 and you render in 1080p it will have black bars. If the software tried to force 4:3 to be 16:9 footage it would stretch everything horizontally and look very strange.

So the questions is what is your source footage? If you are recording via fraps what resolutions is your laptop/pc using? If you record in 16:9 and render in 16:9 there should be no black bars.

PS... rendering 720p footage (1280 x 720) into 1080p only scales the pixels up and doesn't actually improve quality.
 
Another quick one then - how do you force a game to be 16:9? Does it depend on your screen resolution or the settings within the game?
 
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