My Thoughts on YouTube Red - anyone else?

Reading this thread does help inform me both about what Red is and what people think of it. Personally, I may be practically a nobody on YouTube when it comes to my own uploads, but I still do hope that YouTube Red gives the smaller channels more due compensaton.
 
Well the main alternative I was thinking off was Daily Motion. I have started a channel over there for my iGM Talks and even if YouTube Red flops or it is a benefit to us all - I plan to keep my Daily Motion account as it gives me overall exposure in the long run.
Things like Facebook - in my opinion - are really hard to get started on. Much harder that YouTube. Simply because Facebook was never designed to be a video sharing site. It was designed to allow people to connect via the internet from across the globe.
 
Lightsen said:
Oh I diddn't realise people could post 'YT Red subscriber' only content to youtube. Then again, youtube's had the paid subscription option for channels (leaving their content viewable for only paid subscribers) for ages and noone really uses it at all.
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Some channels did use it (Drive Plus comes to mind) and it absolutely destroyed their community. Their channel used to have really cool people you could talk to about cars, but it split that community, so now their main channel just has lots of hateful comments about the bad practice, their videos get tons of dislikes, and they get about 1/10th of the views on their videos (on the main channel) than they did before. Their viewership and comment sections are a graveyard now compared to how it was, all in the name of putting content behind a paywall. After all that went down, they lost one of their biggest talents, who started his own channel without a paywall and went back to doing things properly.

I've also seen this happen to a couple of channels who started putting exclusive content behind their Patreon paywall. Completely fractured their community and upset a ton of people.

Youtube just basically forced EVERYONE into a tiered content distribution model now. There's no world where this is good for content creators, especially at the absurd price-point they want. It's more expensive than Netflix!

While I'm sure some people might make more money somewhere because of this (mainly Youtube with their fat 45% cut) it's awful for the overall Youtube community and the overall goal that got Youtube where it is today, being able to freely share content with everyone. If this doesn't kill Youtube, I still think in a few years they're going to look back at it as a huge mistake...
 
I can not wait to charge a subscription for my channel. It is like money in the bank now. I'm going shopping now.
 
Kaleido said:
Some channels did use it (Drive Plus comes to mind) and it absolutely destroyed their community. Their channel used to have really cool people you could talk to about cars, but it split that community, so now their main channel just has lots of hateful comments about the bad practice, their videos get tons of dislikes, and they get about 1/10th of the views on their videos (on the main channel) than they did before. Their viewership and comment sections are a graveyard now compared to how it was, all in the name of putting content behind a paywall. After all that went down, they lost one of their biggest talents, who started his own channel without a paywall and went back to doing things properly.

I've also seen this happen to a couple of channels who started putting exclusive content behind their Patreon paywall. Completely fractured their community and upset a ton of people.

Youtube just basically forced EVERYONE into a tiered content distribution model now. There's no world where this is good for content creators, especially at the absurd price-point they want. It's more expensive than Netflix!

While I'm sure some people might make more money somewhere because of this (mainly Youtube with their fat 45% cut) it's awful for the overall Youtube community and the overall goal that got Youtube where it is today, being able to freely share content with everyone. If this doesn't kill Youtube, I still think in a few years they're going to look back at it as a huge mistake...
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channels aren't forced to make red exclusive content, and if they do as you say, they are likely to lose their fan base. Thanks for the info on the channels that used the subscriber paid model, hopefully people have learned from that. I have no doubt in my mind that the channels I watch aren't going to hide their content, and if they did make an exclusive video it would be something small and extra, not Main content
 
I may have read your post wrong but I think you're forgetting the fact that YouTube Red is completely optional.

We don't know what kind of exclusive videos will be made by users but I don't think that everyone is going to make every video Red Exclusive, they would probably get less views than without YouTube Red.

EDIT: Exclusive videos are pretty much the same thing as the "Bonus Features" section on a DVD, or at least I think that this was what YouTube intended to do.
 
I don't think it'll go very far and will be remembered as a silly thing Youtube tried to do. With AdBlock being a free app, people will just use that instead of paying $10 a month to remove ads, and Youtube's "exclusive content" will definitely not be worth that price point. Also, there's rumours that Facebook is trying to get into the video sharing game and is planning to offer a much more competitive split with creators so the last thing Youtube should be doing right now is pushing creators away with Red.
 
This is something that will takes years to get to that point. I'm sure like people said, for now, these exclusives will be things similar to 'DVD extras' but I wouldn't be surprised if in the years to come things with as much production value as say... Legend of Street Fighter and Video Game High School will be exclusive Red content.

Things will change, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the larger Youtubers will choose not to do this and keep all their content free, which will make the one that do have paid-for content seem like 'it's all about the money'.

Honestly, some Youtubers like FreddieWong have been doing big production stuff before any of this ever started, and never asked for an extra penny to view it. This new feature might be a make or break for some of the big Youtubers in the eyes of their fans. Do they really care about their fanbase and the passion and all that jazz as they always say.... or are they just doing it for the money?
 
Talooka said:
I can only see this helping us all out in the long run.

In the worst-case-scenario, I will begin to upload my videos on every platform and once I find something that genereates more views organically, that's the one I'll stick with. Facebook looks like it has some real potential.
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Just don't upload anything copyrighted to Facebook
 
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