Music companies refuse to license

XXLRay said:
Sorry but I really don't remember. The only thing I still know is that his license indirectly covered broadcasts on YouTube.
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Do you remember when this was? Was this prior to the revenue sharing with cover songs? Maybe this was back before YouTube had the deals with most of the record labels etc.
 
offbeatbryce said:
Do you remember when this was? Was this prior to the revenue sharing with cover songs? Maybe this was back before YouTube had the deals with most of the record labels etc.
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That seems right. When I first started having conversations with them in 2012 they were very instant on me purchasing a license for YouTube. Then in 2013 they told me they had deals in place with 98 percent of songs to be allowed and soon their would be revenue sharing.

EDIT: Warner and Universal have told me to email them the URL to my videos with Cover Songs and Audio Recordings for them to properly tag the songs for the Content ID system. They also want me to discuss any changes I might make to the song such as lyric changes etc.
 
I honestly hate the mixed signals that these music companies give due to their unknown "YouTube Agreements.." A few years ago Warner was taking down every video they could..now they don't care. Tomorrow ..who knows! It's all based on some YouTube agreement (that may or may not exist in the future), that the creators never get to hear about. D:
/end rant..sorry..it makes me grumpy. lol! x_x

It sounds like Warner and Universal are trying to at least properly track the videos (that's what Nintendo does with their Creators program thing). I'd keep all of those emails in a safe place just in case - they are your proof that you tried talking to them! ^_^

It does make me wonder..what happens to all the cover videos if the "YouTube Agreements" with these publishing companies end? =/ I wonder what they'd say if I emailed about licensing a video for Vimeo? :eek:
 
The simple answer is, unfortunately, the one most people don't like to hear… if you didn't create it yourself or have the rights to do so, don't use it… need it be video, audio, or even songs that you want to do covers of.

There are a few networks that can grant you some rights, but good luck if the contracts ever change or if you ever decide you want to be a partner of theirs any longer.


KatyAdelson said:
I'd keep all of those emails in a safe place just in case - they are your proof that you tried talking to them! ^_^
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They also prove that the companies didn't authorize any rights to their music.

Unless they expressly grant rights, it is stealing. It doesn't matter if the intent to buy them was there or not.
 
Just by the way - if it's only cover music you should be able to get a mechanical and synch license. That's some kind of standard that allows artists to cover and broadcast music.
 
XXLRay said:
Just by the way - if it's only cover music you should be able to get a mechanical and synch license. That's some kind of standard that allows artists to cover and broadcast music.
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But you can't. I've tried. I even had a music attorney ask them.[DOUBLEPOST=1432978568,1432977868][/DOUBLEPOST]
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[DOUBLEPOST=1432979077][/DOUBLEPOST]That's the email discussion with warner. Somewhere I have a copy where I was told I could use these emails as valid permission in court.
 
A mechanical and synch license actually allows even small bands to cover, perform and broadcast songs. Furthermore it allows them to sell their own CDs. If there wasn't such a license there wouldn't be cover songs. I can only assume that there is a misunderstanding with your contacts as I know for sure from a band member that they have such a license to be allowed to play cover songs on local festivals and also to broadcast them on YouTube. Unfortunately the contact is pretty loose and I could only ask for details when I occasionally meet him for the next time.
 
What misunderstanding? I ask what their policy and they say "you don't need a license." A attorney follows up for me tells me "you don't need a license." The attorney inquires about purchasing licenses company tells attorney "we don't issue licenses." There is no misunderstanding. Just s broken system[DOUBLEPOST=1432982404,1432981721][/DOUBLEPOST]
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Here is an email from Harry Fox Agency. Mentions only needing a license if video is blocked.
 
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