If I could make youtube better I would?

PewDiePie is an interesting case study. The reason he rose like a damn rocket is thanks to a LOT of factors. The fly-by:

  1. YT promotes locally and PDP is a Swede who has also lived in a few other countries, so his videos were given local preference in multiple countries.
  2. He's European but speaks English. That means he had time to build up a pretty big Euro audience before he even started rising in the West. The odds of any of us suddenly finding a big Italian or a big Norwegian audience are basically zero.
  3. YT cares about view time overall. It doesn't matter if you make an incredible 15 minute film that will bring audiences to tears and deserves an Oscar. If you make one of those a month and each one gets 20mil views, but I make a 15 minute every day and it gets 1mil views, I'm more valuable by a good 33%.
  4. YT cares about retention. People binge watch channels like PDP's, so the fact that someone will burn through dozens of his videos in a sitting makes his channel more "valuable" than fewer uploads.
YouTube didn't "overhype" anyone, it's just that this is how YT works. Look at JackSepticEye. He went from 1mil subscribers to 3mil in less than a year and YouTube didn't even acknowledge him until they gave him a little "congrats" tweet for 3mil. Markiplier did the same thing, going from 800k to 6mil in under 2 years.

TBH I think it's probably better for our egos if YouTube didn't promote small channels. As long as we're the underdogs, we can all sit around going "man I'm just as good as them, if only YT would give me that kinda help!" But imagine a day when YT starts actually curating quality small channels... and yours never gets the attention. Oh that's gonna be one hell of a blow to the ol' self esteem.
 
WorldSixtyFour said:
Certainly my friend, but google is big enough to think of the future, these top youtubers will be beat one day, as in someone will pass them remember fred? how everyone thought he would be king forever? he was passed, then nigahiga, then rwj then smosh, i don't know if anyone will beat pewdiepie but i would infest in the small ones as well so that i can make money on the new commers and the top channels.
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Sorry but i don't think ANY small Youtuber would be able to pass very big Youtubers like Marcus Butler, PointlessBlog, Joe Sugg, Zoella more because they are too far a head in the game and i think it pretty much impossible to pass them..

I be happy if get too 50K to 100K subscribers on YouTube.
 
BillyVlogsTV said:
Sorry but i don't think ANY small Youtuber would be able to pass very big Youtubers like Marcus Butler, PointlessBlog, Joe Sugg, Zoella more because they are too far a head in the game and i think it pretty much impossible to pass them..

I be happy if get too 50K to 100K subscribers on YouTube.
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You never know dude. In the past two years a bunch of YT'ers leapfrogged bigger names. I've seen plenty of dudes who had videos where they chuckled about "If I ever got as big as X..." and then a year or so later they're BIGGER.
 
SomeGuyDude said:
YouTube didn't "overhype" anyone, it's just that this is how YT works. Look at JackSepticEye. He went from 1mil subscribers to 3mil in less than a year and YouTube didn't even acknowledge him until they gave him a little "congrats" tweet for 3mil. Markiplier did the same thing, going from 800k to 6mil in under 2 years.
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Those factors do play a huge part in his success but he is overrated now. Yes at one point his stuff might've been good and fresh but that's it. Markiplier doesn't count because he does what Pew does but in a different way. Imagine if you would've copied Pew's style at his prime, you too would have 100K+ subs. It's like any star, once you give someone so much attention, the rest will flock to the "star" and not even know why lol but that's what sheep do. I could give people that eat pounds of food, Francis and even BFvsGF props for what they do. Let's watch men play a game, get scared and call it entertainment lol
 
Eternal Pig said:
Those factors do play a huge part in his success but he is overrated now. Yes at one point his stuff might've been good and fresh but that's it. Markiplier doesn't count because he does what Pew does but in a different way. Imagine if you would've copied Pew's style at his prime, you too would have 100K+ subs. It's like any star, once you give someone so much attention, the rest will flock to the "star" and not even know why lol but that's what sheep do. I could give people that eat pounds of food, Francis and even BFvsGF props for what they do. Let's watch men play a game, get scared and call it entertainment lol
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What I mean, man, is that it's not like the youTube execs are putting him in commercials. His growth was just YT growth. He's popular because of 35+ million subscribers who share and talk about his videos. I dunno about copying him back then (also it's hard not to call NOW his prime considering he's still #1 on YT), but certainly starting an LP channel at all back in 2008 would have given anyone a huge leg up versus 2015. Then again, that's true in general, haha.
 
SomeGuyDude said:
What I mean, man, is that it's not like the youTube execs are putting him in commercials. His growth was just YT growth. He's popular because of 35+ million subscribers who share and talk about his videos. I dunno about copying him back then (also it's hard not to call NOW his prime considering he's still #1 on YT), but certainly starting an LP channel at all back in 2008 would have given anyone a huge leg up versus 2015. Then again, that's true in general, haha.
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Let's say my videos just make you chuckle and not tear..but what happens if Pew gives me a shout out? I'm an instant star just because of a shout-out from Pew. It gets so serious that I am now the #2 guy on YT..but wait, what about the 100 other channels that destroy me in comedy..don't bring up his 35M subs, it's irrelevant in 2015. You have 10 year olds on Vine with 100K just because the world we live in is share, share and share. Pew didn't get a s/o, he's an innovator but at one point people just blew him up just because he was the first. Bro, you on the other hand are beast. You got the voice, charisma and the waxing lol I'd give that 100K subs any day. In your trailer you had to say, now I know not another LP..in 2008 Marki and the guys behind Pew didn't have to say that. It's just timing really.
 
Eternal Pig said:
Let's say my videos just make you chuckle and not tear..but what happens if Pew gives me a shout out? I'm an instant star just because of a shout-out from Pew. It gets so serious that I am now the #2 guy on YT..but wait, what about the 100 other channels that destroy me in comedy..don't bring up his 35M subs, it's irrelevant in 2015. You have 10 year olds on Vine with 100K just because the world we live in is share, share and share. Pew didn't get a s/o, he's an innovator but at one point people just blew him up just because he was the first. Bro, you on the other hand are beast. You got the voice, charisma and the waxing lol I'd give that 100K subs any day. In your trailer you had to say, now I know not another LP..in 2008 Marki and the guys behind Pew didn't have to say that. It's just timing really.
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Haha dude damn. First of all that just made me go all red.

Yeah... I think you're right, haha. YT is like a snowball going down a hill. At this point those guys that started earlier are boulders. They're tearing through the landscape. It is damn sad that YouTube isn't a pure "popularity through merit" situation. No one can honestly say there aren't huge channels that aren't any good and that there aren't tiny channels that are amazing. There are, and like you said a lot of it is luck of the draw and how they manage to catch attention. You get a shout out from whoever and bang. Now you're a monster of your own. You don't, and maybe you just kinda flap around without notice.

Actually that's the funny thing. Following these gaming channels since YouTube was brand new, it's SO often the case that this or that channel grows thanks to promotion from another one. Ninja Sex Party went from small time funny musical group to HUGE thanks to Danny joining the Game Grumps. Markiplier's old roommate Bob saw his channel go to like 200,000 subs in 9 months because right off the bat he was doing videos with big YouTubers. People pull in friends or just randomly happen to notice someone and then a few months later that person is part of the elite. You don't get that luck of the draw and hey.

What's that old story? Harrison Ford was working as a carpenter for George Lucas when Lucas just offered him a role in American Graffiti?
 
SomeGuyDude said:
Haha dude damn. First of all that just made me go all red.

Yeah... I think you're right, haha. YT is like a snowball going down a hill. At this point those guys that started earlier are boulders. They're tearing through the landscape. It is damn sad that YouTube isn't a pure "popularity through merit" situation. No one can honestly say there aren't huge channels that aren't any good and that there aren't tiny channels that are amazing. There are, and like you said a lot of it is luck of the draw and how they manage to catch attention. You get a shout out from whoever and bang. Now you're a monster of your own. You don't, and maybe you just kinda flap around without notice.
What's that old story? Harrison Ford was working as a carpenter for George Lucas when Lucas just offered him a role in American Graffiti?
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Exactly man, it's all about timing, word of mouth and of course having some decent content. Good luck to us all!
 
I would jettison every channel who ******* that YouTube isn't doing anything to help them.

People need to realize it's a service they provide, and it's free too... Hell, if you are good enough and get exposure by your own hand you can actually make some decent coin doing it too. But that is not the main thing. The main thing is have fun. Stop sweating the numbers. What I have found is that the smallest channels constantly stare themselves blind on the damn numbers. It's so much easier to ignore them and have fun with it.

The whole "if you don't take is seriously it will never go anywhere" is a load of crap. 99.9% of the big YouTubers are where they are because of the passion they've shown. Not because of taking their channel seriously from the get go. When you stare yourself blind on numbers it will show in your videos. It's that that eerie sense of entitlement that sneaks trough. Some will even come out and say "I am here for DAT YouTube CASH" in one form or another. A watcher will see that clear as day, and will turn their back on your channel for it.

Fun > Numbers. It really is that simple. I just crested 900 subscribers. It goes up and down and all around. But one thing I know for sure... This is the best hobby ever.
 
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