I am DONE with YouTube

TinHatRanch said:
Well, I will still let them host my videos on their dime but as far as putting my life blood and soul into YouTube, I'm done. Almost a year ago I set off to have a little fun and start a business in making survival videos. For 8 months I poured every waking minute I wasn't working into producing content for YouTube. I went from zero to over 7,000 subscribers in a relatively short amount of time. I actually started making some money which was badly needed in my household. Things were on the up, each month I'd nearly double my YT income, my views would rise, subscribers were rolling in. Then October happened. My monthly views rose by 50,000 but Adsense dropped by 30%. Same thing in November. Ditto for December. My frustration peaked the other day when I logged 5,000 views in a day yet my CPM was chimed in at less than what a postage stamp costs. I'm sorry, but screw off YT, I've found much better ways to make money in social media. Don't get me wrong, I like making videos. Yet I'd bet most of you don't know the investment in time required to grow a channel like mine. Sure, I will make a video now and again when I feel it will serve my fan base but as far as playing by your rules YT, no way. You've jumped the shark anyways.
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Try Rumble.com out, I haven't heard anyone else in here share success stories yet. I still use Youtube as my main video platform, but Rumble has made me decent money in a short amount of time. The thing is, you have to have your videos accepted to the front page, or you will make $0. They happen to like pet videos, so I'm golden. Just make sure you aren't violating your network terms if you are with one, I talked to Fullscreen and they said I'm good as long as I don't choose exclusive licensing. I think I've only had two people from Yttalk actually try Rumble, haven't heard back after that though.
 
cmcollection said:
Maybe you can find a job and continue to do youtube on the side but to a lesser extent until your channel grows large enough. My videos, particularly the lookbooks and style videos, can take several hours after filming and editing which I do entirely by myself. Starting with setting the exposure right for the scene, making sure i'm in focus, and going on from there. It's not easy, so I get where you are coming from but you should try to stick with it. You have over 8,000 people that care about what you have to say.
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I still have a full time+ job and I am not quitting making videos. I'm just not going to strive to make YT a priority any longer. What I've learned is that YT is NOT the path to making a living in social media. In fact it is the LAST one anyone should choose. A combination of Facebook and your own website pays about 10 times what YT does on a CPM basis. Add in a few other things and it only takes about 20,000 followers to make a living. When you get to that point you can drag YT along for the ride.
 
TinHatRanch said:
I know you can't answer this, but like bad to the tune of less than half a buck?
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Well it's less than half of what it was in November besides the days where it spikes through the atmosphere. Besides the Facebook embed views I got from someone posting my video to their FB page twice, I've been making less than rabbit turds. FB embeds are insane, at least for that particular page! I made more from a few thousand views (around 10k) than i normally make for a couple hundred thousand somehow! Still can't figure out CPM and how it works or what makes something pay more...[DOUBLEPOST=1389674437,1389674266][/DOUBLEPOST]
TinHatRanch said:
I still have a full time+ job and I am not quitting making videos. I'm just not going to strive to make YT a priority any longer. What I've learned is that YT is NOT the path to making a living in social media. In fact it is the LAST one anyone should choose. A combination of Facebook and your own website pays about 10 times what YT does on a CPM basis. Add in a few other things and it only takes about 20,000 followers to make a living. When you get to that point you can drag YT along for the ride.
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My girlfriend told me to start a blog... I also want to make an app... I'm also trying to get a social media job, so all of these things seem to go together. I just don't know where to start (blog, app, job...) I'm interested in what kind of CPMs websites make and how you get people to advertise on them. Hey, maybe @Michael knows! lol[DOUBLEPOST=1389674644][/DOUBLEPOST]
TinHatRanch said:
Just to clear up a question that might pop into your heads, I like helping people with my videos. But one doesn't invest 50 hours a week into an endeavor for an ego boost..unless they are a complete narcissist. I am in it for the money, what I mean is I want to do something I enjoy and earn a living doing it. I am truly beginning to understand these bigger YouTubers who are scrambling to make ends meet. If I earn 5,000 views in a day at least throw me a ten spot. Even that is so far below minimum wage it makes me shudder to think about it.
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I would make videos even if I didn't make money, so YT earnings are an extra to me. Any money I get from videos I consider play money. Look at options outside of Youtube, such as licensing to shows, other networks, etc. I've had luck with other networks and TV shows so far, and this is BECAUSE of Youtube. Videos that didn't make s**t for me on Youtube got me some play money elsewhere. Youtube is not the only option
 
TinHatRanch said:
I still have a full time+ job and I am not quitting making videos. I'm just not going to strive to make YT a priority any longer. What I've learned is that YT is NOT the path to making a living in social media. In fact it is the LAST one anyone should choose. A combination of Facebook and your own website pays about 10 times what YT does on a CPM basis. Add in a few other things and it only takes about 20,000 followers to make a living. When you get to that point you can drag YT along for the ride.
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I think you may be thinking in the moment. You realize that there are teenagers on Youtube that are making 6 figures and people making a doctor's salary in less than a year. I'm not sure how websites work as far as revenue generation when you run ads but if it will keep you at it then go for it. I plan on starting up a website soon, but i'm really just looking for exposure at this point and not monetary gain.
 
In my experience 1,000 visits to your own personal website makes more than 10,000 views of a video(and that is by the higher number from last year). The CPC is just ten times higher. Therefore 1,000 Facebook likes is about equal to 10k subs. So if you can build an audience and then direct them to view your vids on your own website you can make much more. If you can figure out a way to sell something with your videos you can figure on an exponential increase.
 
youtube is taking away his hard earned money. we all deserve it, all of us started youtube for fun but not for free. i know i havent made a dime yet but if i were to make 500 dollars a week or 2000 a month and then all of a sudden it dropped to say 200 a week and 800 a month i would be very upset. i understand where he is coming from. its like a demotion and disrespect. but those big youtubers (pewdiepie) will continue to make thousands a month regardless because they are in the top 10 percent or whatever. its like real famous people. it divides us from tom hanks and katy perry because we are not big and famous.
 
TinHatRanch said:
Interesting, 6 figures for 100k subs. I'm a tenth of the way there and I'd be happy with a tenth of the money. Right now it has become a tenth of a tenth.
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Well, I think this is more of an exponential graph than linear. Advertisers pay more for videos that will obviously get more views.

Anyway, I understand your frustration. I'm a new channel and own an LLC for this business, and going into it, I purposely set it up so that I wasn't dependent on the ad income because I knew that wasn't the real way to make money. YouTube is for getting an audience, like Facebook and Twitter. You don't make money on YouTube - ad money is gravy. You make money by gathering a following and then leading some number of them to buy some other product. In my case, comedic songs.

With my example, and this is simplified, but if the normal CPM is something like $1 for 1000, I could make the same for 1 song selling for 99 cents. So, if just one person in a thousand buys the song (and it is pretty dang awesome song :D ), then I doubled my money. If more than one person buys the song in that thousand, that multiplies.

In your case, you should be selling your brand's logo on survival equipment of some sort. You could start with the usual t-shirts, but if you want to do something brand specific, find a way to sell spray paint templates or something so people can put your image on survival gear they have (I imagine actually manufacturing gear is beyond your means). Or team up with a producer of survival gear and do product placement.

There are alternatives to making money through ads. I hope I helped you see that. I'm not necessarily trying to change your mind, I'm just trying to plug my album (I mean help you out :p ).
 
CPMs have been bad in January since the newspaper, it's how the advertising calender works :)[DOUBLEPOST=1389703591,1389703535][/DOUBLEPOST]
Mysterialdyne said:
youtube is taking away his hard earned money. we all deserve it, all of us started youtube for fun but not for free. i know i havent made a dime yet but if i were to make 500 dollars a week or 2000 a month and then all of a sudden it dropped to say 200 a week and 800 a month i would be very upset. i understand where he is coming from. its like a demotion and disrespect. but those big youtubers (pewdiepie) will continue to make thousands a month regardless because they are in the top 10 percent or whatever. its like real famous people. it divides us from tom hanks and katy perry because we are not big and famous.
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No, huge channels will have seen a 40-50% drop in revenue too, it's to do with advertising, it always has happened, it likely always will :P
 
TinHatRanch said:
I know you can't answer this, but like bad to the tune of less than half a buck?
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Its very bad for me aswell. Cpm down 50%, monetized views down with a 2/5 from 33% to 14%.

0,5 x 0,4 = 0,2 = 20%.
Thats right, my earnings in January are 20% of my average earnings, which means I gotta get 5 times the views to have the same income.
 
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