How many subscribers is famous?
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Nicekid76
The Bostonian YTtalker
500k subs or 200 views on a stream?
I'm interested to hear why live viewers are worth 2500x more than 1 subscriber?
Is that because of engagement? Bigger commitment to watch something live than it is to push a subscriber button?
I mostly agree, but I'd like to see where you're coming from.
Min/Max Munchking
Loving YTtalk
My YT channel recently averaged 15 concurrent viewers on ~4hr long live-stream, with a peak of 25 viewers briefly mid-way through. I raised $300 for charity during those 4 hours. So, while that is anecdotal evidence at best and there are many factors that went into it, I can confidently tell you that even my most viral videos (for me, 40k-50k views on a video is what I consider viral at this stage of my channel's growth), don't earn more than $500 over their lifetime, when I take all the Patreon pledges and ad revenue into account.
So, in a way, a few dozen or maybe a hundred concurrent viewers on a live-stream is roughly equal to tens of thousands of views on a regular YT video.
It's difficult to compare it to sub counts, because subscribers are only an indirect measure of notoriety/success.
Now, on the main topic of being famous, I've seen several comments here saying 10k subs might be a minimum for being considered famous. I'm about to hit that in 2-3 months and I can tell you I am and still will be a total stranger to 99.9999% of people on this planet, maybe even 99.99999% considering a lot of my life-time channel views come from the same people or people who only watch me once and forget about my channel forever.
It's also relative, if I attend some kind of event or gathering related to the niche I cover, a lot of people might actually know about my channel. At the same time, attending some ordinary concert or festival, I'm still just another random face in the crowd.
To me, I'd say 100k subscribers is a rough minimum to consider a channel or a person behind it famous in a way, because those channels usually have millions, if not tens of millions of views and they've been seen by quite a lot of people. That said, there are hundreds, if not thousands of channels out there with 100k+ subscribers that I've never seen or heard about, so mainstream fame cut-off point, at least in 2020, is probably closer to 1 million subs.
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Nicekid76
The Bostonian YTtalker
I dont mean to derail my own thread from the famous topic but...
Do you have any idea why you can raise more money with a live audience of 25 vs a video with 50k views EVEN with Patreon?
Is there a better sense of community? More likely to be active instead of passive?
Min/Max Munchking
Loving YTtalk
Well, it was for charity, meaning I took $0 out of all that. In fact, I even donated some of my own money in the end (somebody suggested I donate $5 every time I drop the F-bomb. I curse a lot, so yeah...). My parents and friends chipped in, so the final amount was almost $400. I also incentivized their donations by saying "every time someone donates X amount of $, something fun will happen in live play" basically. All that most likely inflated the money raised significantly, I doubt I'd be able to replicate that by just streaming a more conventional type of content and keeping the money for myself. By the time the stream ended, around 200 people total watched the stream at some point and I think only 1 person watched it from start to finish, which was my mother ahahhahaha
I have no data to prove anything, only opinions, but based on seeing other streamers, both on Twitch and YouTube, and my own recent experience doing it for the first time in my life, it seems to me like live-streaming provides a way for those few true fans/followers of yours (it seems like I have around half a dozen to maybe a dozen of them at this point) to interact with you in a more real-time manner instead of through comments and other purely textual modes of communication. It probably feels more personal to them, more "real".
The 100 or 1000 True Fans theory might have something to do with it as well. Because if you think about it, overwhelming majority of your YouTube views will be worth fractions of a penny, but then some of those views will convert to paid supporters or buyers of whatever you're selling. Live-streaming cuts through this clutter, meaning only those that are compelled to get as much of you as possible will be watching you live. Therefore, 100 concurrent live-stream viewers can easily equal 50k-100k views on a regular YT video.
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Nicekid76
The Bostonian YTtalker
I think this is what I was trying to say when I said 10,000 subs with 10% active and engaged in the community.
I see your points. Thank you for chiming in
I mentioned this to some of my Youtube friends, but I wish Youtube allowed me to unsubscribe people from my channel. I would much rather see how many subs are engaged in my content vs how many subscribed and haven't ever watch it since then. Not sure if that makes sense or if theirs a metric for doing that through analytics.
SarenaHess
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For me if someone has 10k subs then it's like Oh okay they are getting some momentum and they are getting some attention. But even a few thousand is cool.
