Fullscreen vs Freedom

I have a suggestion for you. Don't join any network.

For a channel of your size (if that's the one you're trying to get partnered), you will get pretty much nothing out of being partnered. The worst thing that can happen is if you get sucked into a long term contract and your channel somehow gets popular. You won't be able to leave the network, your rev share will be low and you'll lose money on monthly basis.

Freedom is one of those networks that are relatively new and look great. Most of their partners are really satisfied with how things work there, but I personally think that every Freedom partner that has standard contract (and every smaller channel has it) is getting ripped off. Anything under 90/10 in 2014 is low and is a rip off in my opinion. If you're concerned about getting copyright strikes or whatever, you should consider looking into what you can and what you can't upload to YouTube. No network is going to protect you if you are foolishly uploading forbidden/copyrighted material. Sure, they can offer you an advice, you can meet new people on their forums and so on, but there will really be no proper gain for you to join network at this point. They won't advertise for you, they won't give you views and subscribers randomly - you need to earn all that.

So yeah, bottom line: don't join any network just yet. You aren't making any money and you probably won't for a little while, and if you are having copyright issues, you can either stop uploading copyrighted material or dispute those claims yourself if you think you are allowed to upload those stuff. You can hang out with people on yttalk.com, you can look into advertising campaigns, create a decent looking channel/brand and see where that takes you. Collaborate with people, create QUALITY videos and basically, read some tips how and when to upload videos and so on - most of this can be found on this forum too. Good luck!
 
Clam- said:
Anything under 90/10 in 2014 is low and is a rip off in my opinion.
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Bold statement. I don't agree with you at all. 90/10 may be fine for a network with limited added value like Curse, but if the network is adding a range of features and is dedicating real time to you and your channel, I see no problem in a lower revenue share. I'm not saying Freedom's 60/40 base is justified at all, but I'm refuting your "anything under 90/10 is a ripoff" claim.
 
Sebas said:
Bold statement. I don't agree with you at all. 90/10 may be fine for a network with limited added value like Curse, but if the network is adding a range of features and is dedicating real time to you and your channel, I see no problem in a lower revenue share. I'm not saying Freedom's 60/40 base is justified at all, but I'm refuting your "anything under 90/10 is a ripoff" claim.
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Fair enough, it's my personal opinion anyway. However, let's talk about numbers to see if I can get you on the same page.

If your channel is big enough to get special attention from network and you're earning $5,000/month, in a 90/10 rev share your network is getting $500/month. Considering networks normally don't have any costs when it comes to your own business (for example, if you own a website, they're not the ones paying domain/web hosting), they earn $500 (minus taxes) from you every month. What you might get in return is one of their employers time to be available to you at any time of the day/working hours, be part of their promotion series/campaigns on YouTube/social network or they'd help you with re-branding or would offer you a great deal for a new website by their employed designer. All that together, does it really cost $500 at the end of the month, considering they're doing this for bunch of people at the same time? It doesn't. So what's the point of lower rev share? Why should a network earn $1000 or $1500 or even $2000 from your channel? Are they going to invest that much back into it? If they invest even half, they're earning quite some money considering you're just one out of many channels they have. This is also why networks with lower revenue share turn profitable way quicker than 90/10 ones, since the money they invest back into your channel is either none or very little, and obviously a network that earns 20% more would make more money.

This is why I think 90/10 is the real deal. Unless, obviously, there are special stuff on YouTube for huge channels that I'm not aware of, where it's actually worth paying 30% to your network.
 
Clam- said:
Fair enough, it's my personal opinion anyway. However, let's talk about numbers to see if I can get you on the same page.

If your channel is big enough to get special attention from network and you're earning $5,000/month, in a 90/10 rev share your network is getting $500/month. Considering networks normally don't have any costs when it comes to your own business (for example, if you own a website, they're not the ones paying domain/web hosting), they earn $500 (minus taxes) from you every month. What you might get in return is one of their employers time to be available to you at any time of the day/working hours, be part of their promotion series/campaigns on YouTube/social network or they'd help you with re-branding or would offer you a great deal for a new website by their employed designer. All that together, does it really cost $500 at the end of the month, considering they're doing this for bunch of people at the same time? It doesn't. So what's the point of lower rev share? Why should a network earn $1000 or $1500 or even $2000 from your channel? Are they going to invest that much back into it? If they invest even half, they're earning quite some money considering you're just one out of many channels they have. This is also why networks with lower revenue share turn profitable way quicker than 90/10 ones, since the money they invest back into your channel is either none or very little, and obviously a network that earns 20% more would make more money.

This is why I think 90/10 is the real deal. Unless, obviously, there are special stuff on YouTube for huge channels that I'm not aware of, where it's actually worth paying 30% to your network.
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Partner managers, Music library, Graphic design services, business opportunities and campaigns, premium ads, invitations to events, etc.
These constitute many reasons which could push a $5000/month earning partner to go for 80% instead of 90% (granted, not all the way to 70%).
Obviously though, if smaller channels ($2000/month, ...) also want in, they may have to give a larger cut of their money. This evidently all depends on the value of the above.
 
Clam- said:
You won't be able to leave the network
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Dude on thier Website it says :" leave at any time" so get that little idea back into your pocket.

Considering i can leave any time i could join freedom and when i grow biggest join fullscreen. Or should i join a network when im bigger?
 
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