Fans, Subscribers, and Viewers do not control our schedules!

GameramaTV said:
I definitely agree with this, although of course it's nice to have people watching and be thankful/grateful for their support, entitled fans are terrible. I saw a comment on a YouTube video the other day complaining that a user (a rather big YouTuber, admittedly) hadn't uploaded often recently and that it was "his job" to do so. I don't even know where to start with that.

Then again I'm subscribed to a YouTube who got pretty big and has literally stopped uploading and taken a year out to sort some things out and I really see no reason to complain about a lack of videos, it's just a mindset of some entitled viewers, I suppose.
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Entitled fans in any entertainment industry are the worst fans. Why can't fans just enjoy old videos? You are not entitled to an autograph, picture, or information about a person's personal life. It's a basic relationship between entertainers and fans. They pay entertainers and in return the entertainers give a quality product. Of course this same view about the pay for entertainment does not apply to YouTube because fans get our videos for free.
 
I don't agree with this completely. I only have 139 subscribers, and some of them really look forward to my new video on Sunday (same time always). If I don't upload then they are disappointed even though they don't complain about it. This whole youtube thing is kind of a popularity contest, you need to keep your subscribers happy if you want them to stick around. When your channel uploads on a predicted time/day they will preserve that time of their day for your video. And of course you are right that you don't need to care about them, but if you want them to be fans and stay subscribed, you should...

You should look at your fans complaining as information that helps you improve your channel (if that is your goal), especially when they have been long time subscribers.

(don't hurt me, this is my opinion).
 
I also don't agree with this. I think it's definitely the wrong attitude to have to view people who are clearly fans of you and like your stuff as braying, complaining idiots. If you want to be successful, you need those people as they will be your greatest champions. I can see how it might be annoying to feel pressured by people but ask yourself if you've been procrastinating recently, or if you maybe could produce stuff a little faster. Also keep in mind that a short video on Youtube is consumed extremely quickly, so you can't just point your fans to your backlog and say to them, "Isn't that enough for you bastards?!"

It isn't enough. Think about how George R.R. Martin feels about the extreme, mind destroying pressure he's under to put out another Game of Thrones book. It takes him years to write a book that most people will completely consume in just a few weeks and then ask for more. He can't just tell everyone to shut up and re-read the 5,000+ pages he's already published.

If you don't continue to give your fans content consistently, you will lose them.
 
YorkshireYank said:
I also don't agree with this. I think it's definitely the wrong attitude to have to view people who are clearly fans of you and like your stuff as braying, complaining idiots. If you want to be successful, you need those people as they will be your greatest champions. I can see how it might be annoying to feel pressured by people but ask yourself if you've been procrastinating recently, or if you maybe could produce stuff a little faster. Also keep in mind that a short video on Youtube is consumed extremely quickly, so you can't just point your fans to your backlog and say to them, "Isn't that enough for you bastards?!"

It isn't enough. Think about how George R.R. Martin feels about the extreme, mind destroying pressure he's under to put out another Game of Thrones book. It takes him years to write a book that most people will completely consume in just a few weeks and then ask for more. He can't just tell everyone to shut up and re-read the 5,000+ pages he's already published.

If you don't continue to give your fans content consistently, you will lose them.
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Agreed. This is a very good point. At the same time however, you should first be mindful that producing quality content takes priority over producing rushed-out unpolished videos. People will not be interested in watching your content if you rush out new content that looks half-assed, just to meet a self-defined schedule. Quality over quantity.
 
I can kind of see a happy medium here. I think it would be annoying to be pressure to make videos, which would only bring down the quality of the video... On the other hand, I would appreciate someone wanted to see my videos that bad!!!!! :D

That's like a " YouTube First World Problem"
 
YorkshireYank said:
I also don't agree with this. I think it's definitely the wrong attitude to have to view people who are clearly fans of you and like your stuff as braying, complaining idiots. If you want to be successful, you need those people as they will be your greatest champions. I can see how it might be annoying to feel pressured by people but ask yourself if you've been procrastinating recently, or if you maybe could produce stuff a little faster. Also keep in mind that a short video on Youtube is consumed extremely quickly, so you can't just point your fans to your backlog and say to them, "Isn't that enough for you bastards?!"

It isn't enough. Think about how George R.R. Martin feels about the extreme, mind destroying pressure he's under to put out another Game of Thrones book. It takes him years to write a book that most people will completely consume in just a few weeks and then ask for more. He can't just tell everyone to shut up and re-read the 5,000+ pages he's already published.

If you don't continue to give your fans content consistently, you will lose them.
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I complete disagree with you. True fans realize we have lives outside of YouTube. Entitled fans do not consider family illness, personal problems, work schedules, income, etc. They will complain regardless of what is happening in your life. The lack of updates does not mean creators are ignoring fans. It means life is taking place for this person. "Fans" should not assume the reasons why someone is behind.

Your analogy on George R.R. is ridiculous. Only an idiot would complain about not having a new book after the new one was released a month ago. Common sense tells most people that it takes months or years to writing a book depending on its length.

Why can't people enjoy classic videos? Am I the only person who goes back and rewatch old videos?
 
Even "True fans" won't just magically assume you're having life problems and that's why you're absent from Youtube; you have to tell them that. The Yogscast made sure to publicly tell everyone that Simon was sick so won't be appearing in videos for a while, Markiplier posted a video of himself in the hospital to let his fans know why his schedule might be altered. Unfortunately for every channel that is behind because of personal problems, there are 100 channels that just simply get lazy and stop posting videos so most people will assume that's the reason unless you tell them otherwise.

Believe it or not, the "entitled" complaining fans are YOUR true fans. They're the ones that care most about what and when you're posting and they're the ones who will do the most work in promoting you elsewhere. You are acting just as entitled by seeing these people who actually like you and love your content as annoying idiots. You're lucky to have them at all.

Common sense only goes so far, and there must be a lot of idiots out there because George RR Martin is under significant fan pressure right now to finish that new book. The analogy is apt. Fans are fans and their consumption/expectations are the same regardless of the medium.

You're not the only one who rewatches videos, but it is a minority who do so. Most people want to see new stuff and look to you to provide it.
 
I don't think subscribers/supporters should control your schedule but I think it's important to let them know what's going on. I haven't been able to upload in June because work is insane but I let people know. I think it's fair. I absolutely agree that some people are very quick to complain.
 
I would only apologize if it was a few months, like maybe the comp blew up or something and it took a while to get a new one. But missing a day or a week? Oh boo hoo. They can just watch your other videos in the meantime. I mean, back when TV was still a thing, we had what was called reruns to tide us over while the new stuff came in.

I don't know. In a way these fans have to stop treating the Youtubers, as if they were actual TV and/or movie stars. They are regular people just like them, and if they had the same equipment they could probably do the same thing. Take a step back and stop idolizing these people. They aren't above you.
 
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