BroadbandTV: really, really, really lame CPMs? [BBTV and subsidiaries]

That is exactly true!

I am the founder of TGN, and I sold it to BBTV, exiting on Oct 28 2012 due to professional differences with their senior management staff.

The next year I spent building any.TV as recommendation revenue, adding an average $3 CPM to video game-focused YouTube channels in addition to their YouTube CPM.

To learn more, see games.tm (a website)

On Dec 1, we launched Freedom! with "no lock-in forever" YouTube contracts.

To learn more, just Google "mcnfreedom" and click our YouTube channel.

Hope this helps!
 
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GeorgeHelpsYou said:
That is exactly true!

I am the Founder of TGN, and I sold it to BBTV, exiting on Oct 28 2012 because of very strong professional differences with their senior management staff.

Basically, I was told "No" to simple things like: "Can I hire 1 developer to build some awesome tools for our community?"

Guys, I built parts of Hotmail for Microsoft in 2006 and my code is running on 400 million desktops. And somehow I was not entitled to hire even one developer according to Shahrzad, the CEO of BBTV.

So, I made the hard decision to quit and cut out the middle-man. The next year I spent building any.TV which led to a direct contract with Google that puts us at the same level as BBTV, Machinima, Maker and all the other big networks.

On Dec 1, we launched Freedom! where everyone is Managed, not Affiliated with NO LOCK-IN forever contracts.

To learn more, just Google "mcnfreedom" and click our YouTube channel.

I hope you all see through this "gift" of $100 and DO NOT sign a 2-year lock-in contract unless you really, really like BBTV. So much can change in 2 years and I, personally, would never want to be locked in for so long.

And just to show you how transparent we are at Freedom!, here is our Earnings Report.

(Remember, Freedom! started from nothing on Dec 1)

See
(sorry, this forum won't let me post links - to see it, look at the About tab in our YouTube channel youtube dot com slash mcnfreedom)

Hope this helps!
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Wow I love this information about in your forum :D

Step 2

A Network contract can be null and void when you are downgraded to Affiliated because the nature of your agreement with your Network changed.

This means you can leave your Network even if you have a lock-in contract, or you can sign a new contract that clearly states your new status as Affiliated.

If your Network is not releasing you, we suggest sending them these firm but fair words:


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Hello!

Your action of downgrading my channel to Affiliated has adversely affected my ability to monetize my content. Specifically, if I upload a time-sensitive video, it may not be monetizable for hours or days based on YouTube's discretion. As any YouTube content creator can attest to, it is fundamental to be able to upload content on a predictable, timely schedule where monetization is enabled from the moment the video is uploaded.

I find this downgrade highly unacceptable since I understand copyright and my channel is in good standing. Therefore, the conditions of our partnership have indeed changed since I signed your contract as a Managed channel.

Please restore my channel to Managed or unlink it and release all claims to my videos as I consider this adverse affect to my ability to monetize my content as a material breach to the conditions of my partnership with you.

Thank you!
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Originally, we suggested sending the following shorter email.


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Since you downgraded my channel to Affiliated from Managed, the nature of our agreement has changed. That means our contract is null and void, so please unlink my channel and all claims associated with my videos, effective immediately.
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But YouTubers have been consistently telling us their Network denies them 100% of the time with a biolerplate "we don't agree" response.


If you are denied, we suggest sending another follow-up:


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Thank you for your response. My understanding is that YouTube created two versions of channels – Managed and Affiliated in order to reduce copyright infringement issues. YouTube then left it up to the Networks as to whom they kept at Managed or Affiliated.

When I joined your Network, I was accepted with the full expectation that I would be treated, for the term of my agreement, as a fully Managed Channel. With this move to Affiliate, you effectively changed the spirit of the Agreement that we signed and in my opinion have not upheld its side of the intent of the Agreement we signed.

If this Network is able to arbitrarily change the spirit of any Agreement how can I, in good conscious, continue to work with an organization that has no intent of standing behind agreements that they have us sign. While I understand legal agreements are meant to govern a relationship, they are also intended to convey how individuals will be treated.

I ask that you do the honorable thing and immediately release me from my agreement. If this is not possible then I ask that you change me back to Managed status as the current status is not acceptable.

If you are unable to do this then I will be submitting my resignation immediately and look forward to the day that I am allowed to leave this network. I will also make sure that all my contacts understand how you operate with the spirit of your agreements.

Thank you.
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If you are still denied and unhappy, we suggest telling everybody.

Tell your friends, post on Facebook, Twitter and forums, and make videos showing how your Network is holding you hostage against your wishes after they refused to restore you to Managed, and how they do not even acknowledge that they did anything wrong. Of course, say only the truth, do not make things up.

At some point, they may realize the bad publicity is not worth it.
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Guys, as a person with 20+ years business experience outside of YT I can say that I would be extremely cautious about making any gaming channel managed. As a matter of fact I might keep them all affiliated for the first six months of this new system. Making everyone managed is a strategy that will almost guarantee a network's demise.

As for the auto-renew: every contract I reviewed had an auto-renew clause. Some were more cleverly worded than others, but they were all there. Make sure you know your notification date and terms!
 
Guys, partnering everyone as Managed who shows an understanding of copyright is a great idea because gameplay is fair use.

We check that every channel understands copyright before partnering them as Managed. Over 2,000 channels already applied, and we accepted only 18% of them.

See the latest video on our channel if you are curious. Just search for "mcnfreedom" on YouTube or Google.
 
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GeorgeHelpsYou said:
We check every channel before partnering them as Managed, and we check every upload as it comes in.

We have 200 Managed channels so far, 0 copyright strikes, and we will scale to 10,000 Managed channels over the coming year.

We will set an example of how a Network can safely partner everyone as Managed who shows an understanding of copyright.

And we just released an Earnings Report!

See the latest video on our channel if you are curious. Just search for "mcnfreedom" on YouTube or Google.
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This topic is regarding BBTV and their business tactics. If you'd like to open another topic to discuss your network, please contact @Michael (YTT Owner). I don't want to see this topic locked because of you promoting your network.
 
Melody Anne said:
Guys, as a person with 20+ years business experience outside of YT I can say that I would be extremely cautious about making any gaming channel managed. As a matter of fact I might keep them all affiliated for the first six months of this new system. Making everyone managed is a strategy that will almost guarantee a network's demise.

As for the auto-renew: every contract I reviewed had an auto-renew clause. Some were more cleverly worded than others, but they were all there. Make sure you know your notification date and terms!
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Great post. Absolutely agree with this.
 
Please stay on topic guys or create a new one if you wish to discuss the managed vs affiliate subject or anything else :)
 
GeorgeHelpsYou said:
That is exactly true!

I am the Founder of TGN, and I sold it to BBTV, exiting on Oct 28 2012 because of very strong professional differences with their senior management staff.

Basically, I was told "No" to simple things like: "Can I hire 1 developer to build some awesome tools for our community?"

Guys, I built parts of Hotmail for Microsoft in 2006 and my code is running on 400 million desktops. And somehow I was not entitled to hire even one developer according to Shahrzad, the CEO of BBTV.

So, I made the hard decision to quit and cut out the middle-man. The next year I spent building any.TV which led to a direct contract with Google that puts us at the same level as BBTV, Machinima, Maker and all the other big networks.
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I happen to know a lot about George and his business tactics of always making himself appear like a helpless victim just trying to help people.
He builds insecure and unstable platforms (like TGN) and then dumps it once it starts to flop, and never puts himself in a position of appearing responsible of his actions.
I would be more inclined to believe a word of what you say if everything you wrote didn't seem like a marketing ploy.

"A Network contract can be null and void when you are downgraded to Affiliated because the nature of your agreement with your Network changed."

As far as I'm aware, no where in all the network contracts I've seen does it state whether or not your managed or have specific features of entitlement. This is simply your way of trying to rile people up and make yourself look better, in my opinion. You even go as far as to say to try and cause as much noise as possible if they can't get out of their contracts.

What you're essentially selling is a pump-and-dump. Even with my differences with TGN, I will say they have become much more organised after you 'left' and finally got out of the way of people trying to pursue a productive direction. It's business practices like awesomeness and freedom that cause youtube to make such sweeping changes to the way the content id system works.

That being said, this is a thread about TGN/BBTV, not Freedom or how much revenue it's generated.
 
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