Audio copyright? Help please!

[Tarmack]

Let's make this perfectly clear. You are NOT going to get advice on how to circumvent YouTube rules here. The fact that you have seen others "get away with it" is no indication of the legitimacy or legality of the action.

 

[Jingle Jangle]

Let's make this perfectly clear. You are NOT going to get advice on how to circumvent YouTube rules here. The fact that you have seen others "get away with it" is no indication of the legitimacy or legality of the action.

I was just asking a simple question, no need to be huffy about it. If I could ask for for permission from CBS I would, obviously it won't happen, so might as well try the other way.

 

[Tarmack]

I was just asking a simple question, no need to be huffy about it. If I could ask for for permission from CBS I would, obviously it won't happen, so might as well try the other way.

There is plenty of reason to be huffy about it. You clearly understand that you don't have the rights to do what you're doing and yet are fishing for ways to "get around" it anyways. This is the kind of b******t that gives YouTubers who actually create their own content a bad name.

 

[Jingle Jangle]

There is plenty of reason to be huffy about it. You clearly understand that you don't have the rights to do what you're doing and yet are fishing for ways to "get around" it anyways. This is the kind of b******t that gives YouTubers who actually create their own content a bad name.

This is the reason I was hesitant on posting on a forum involving YouTuber partners trying to get big, because someone will get angry about how "YouTubers who work hard and don't get noticed" vs the "Upload a video that isn't yours and get thousands of views" thing would be brought up.

1. I'm not here to make money.

2. How is uploading a video that isn't something I created giving people who do a "Bad name" like what? How does that relate to any of this?

3. Uploading a video of some scenes I find funny isn't like me uploading a video to make money using their footage. Not only would I be sharing the funny scenes with fellow fans of the show, I would basically be promoting it.

4. I came here asking a simple question, if you don't have an answer, don't post in the thread.

 

[Tarmack]

This is the reason I was hesitant on posting on a forum involving YouTuber partners trying to get big, because someone will get angry about how "YouTubers who work hard and don't get noticed" vs the "Upload a video that isn't yours and get thousands of views" thing would be brought up.

1. I'm not here to make money.

2. How is uploading a video that isn't something I created giving people who do a "Bad name" like what? How does that relate to any of this?

3. Uploading a video of some scenes I find funny isn't like me uploading a video to make money using their footage. Not only would I be sharing the funny scenes with fellow fans of the show, I would basically be promoting it.

4. I came here asking a simple question, if you don't have an answer, don't post in the thread.

People uploading content that doesn't belong to them is the entire reason why YouTube elected to go copyright heavy. Whether they were making money or not is irrelevant because that is only one piece of the many headed hydra that is copyright law. Most were making money, but those that weren't were still fervently engaged in copyright infringement. So now, every time people upload content with a valid legitimate copyright use such a proper review or news piece, we get to deal with copyright punishments and very long appeal times because people felt that content ownership wasn't really all that important. That is why my tone is sharp in regard to your simple question.

I do indeed have an answer and advised you of such, twice, one of which you ignored. The fact that you don't like my answer doesn't make it less true.

 

[Jingle Jangle]

People uploading content that doesn't belong to them is the entire reason why YouTube elected to go copyright heavy. Whether they were making money or not is irrelevant because that is only one piece of the many headed hydra that is copyright law. Most were making money, but those that weren't were still fervently engaged in copyright infringement. So now, every time people upload content with a valid legitimate copyright use such a proper review or news piece, we get to deal with copyright punishments and very long appeal times because people felt that content ownership wasn't really all that important. That is why my tone is sharp in regard to your simple question.

I do indeed have an answer and advised you of such, twice, one of which you ignored. The fact that you don't like my answer doesn't make it less true.

I'm giving you 10 points for keeping it simple and not just ranting on about how I'm a bad person like most forums, kudos.

I see your points, I just simply want to share a funny moment with other fans of the show. Would it be possible to ask CBS for permission? I mean, that's something I wouldn't really want to do because it might require me to pay money for it, but still, it's worth a shot.

 

[CaptainSauce]

I was just asking a simple question, no need to be huffy about it. If I could ask for for permission from CBS I would, obviously it won't happen, so might as well try the other way.

You're practically walking into a gamestop and asking them how to pirate games.

People here are creators. They value their work and the work of others. Asking for a way to illegally upload someone elses content isn't going to garner responses. It's not "being huffy" it's just common sense.

Maybe try going to the local police station and ask them how to get away with murder.

 

[Okari]

Jingle Jangle...

The long and short of it is just because you see others post it doesn't mean you are able to. That's like saying, "I'm going to jump off a bridge w/o a bungee cause all the cool kids are doing it!" It makes no logical sense. Heck, they may have gotten the rights to post the content from the creators when you haven't. There are some sites where you can purchase rights to use clips etc. Or they might be flying under YouTube's radar... FOR NOW. I stress FOR NOW because YouTube will find out and they never let this thing fly. But you shouldn't be using that as a basis for why you should be able to post that kind of content.

The long and short of it is, YouTube recognizes that you are attempting to post content, no matter if it's 1/2 a second long or 1/2 hour long, edited or unedited that doesn't belong to you.They are telling you, "Hey! This doesn't belong to you no matter what you may do to it so uh... unless you prove to us otherwise we're taking it down or smacking it with that copyright strike." So long as your video has any kind of content that you didn't, through your own blood, sweat and tears make, YouTube is going to be hard on you.

There is no workaround. There is no gimmicks or tricks you can use. That is the law. Check out the DMCA and trust me, YouTube is being nice here in the end. The laws revolving around copyright are very harsh.

The only thing I can suggest is to take the beating YouTube dished out, learn from it from here on out and get explicit permission from all content owners before ever posting anything that doesn't belong to you again. Or, even easier... don't post things that don't belong to you and you'll never get hit.

I'm really sorry you had to deal with the copyright mess, but that happens when you're not fully educated about the laws revolving around it.

 

[offbeatbryce]

I'm giving you 10 points for keeping it simple and not just ranting on about how I'm a bad person like most forums, kudos.

I see your points, I just simply want to share a funny moment with other fans of the show. Would it be possible to ask CBS for permission? I mean, that's something I wouldn't really want to do because it might require me to pay money for it, but still, it's worth a shot.

Jingle Jangle I've Sent you a private message on here about this.

 

[KatyAdelson]

I look at copyright violations to be similar to breaking into your neighbor's (i.e. the copyright owner) house, using their kitchen to bake cookies, and then going back home to share the cookies with everyone and telling the neighbor not to worry because you're not going to earn a profit off of them. Some copyright owners are pretty laid back about it, some look at it as free promotion, but others have asked YouTube to block the content.

The best way would be to get direct permission from CBS to post the clip. I've asked permission to play songs - sometimes it takes a week to get a reply, other times it takes months to get a reply, sometimes I get no reply and need to send another email. If the video becomes blocked when you upload it with permission, you can then dispute the claim saying you have valid permission to upload the clip.

Laws vary by country, but in the United States there is the fair use law that a lot of people argue with their YouTube videos. However, the only person who can really decide what is "fair use" is a judge. If you made a video as more a "news broadcast" video, or an educational video of some sort with short clips, CBS may potentially see it as fair use and release a claim. The ball is essentially in their court to do so, as there isn't a YouTube judge to look at all of the fair use copyright disputes. I would argue that the majority of fair use claims that I've seen in YouTube video descriptions do not look like valid claims to me (but I'm not a judge...), so what could be considered legal/illegal in the public's view may have become a bit distorted.

But it sounds to me like you want to post a direct clip, so I would try to get permission. You don't know what they will say if you haven't tried. =) It's worth it to find out because copyright violations can come with heavy consequences.